WOW 12 baths a day… and you did not get water logged? Rick

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Don’t do it!  Just take a bath instead.  For the first three months of > my quit I took up to 12 per day as a way to relax and deal with the > brain fog.  Took one just about every time I had a really horrible > craving. > Three months turned into three years.  Woo Hoo.  The healing power of > water : ) > Adrienne > p.s. Darjeeling tea with milk and honey doesn’t hurt either.

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Eucalyptus is nice Dion y1 — Singing in the sunshine, laughing in the rain

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mmmmmmhmmmmmmm. > For me it was jasmine scented bath salts (or the same flavor oil) in > the bath, then jasmine shower jel, jasmine body mist for when the bath > was over.  I bought the "Healing Garden Aromatherapy" brand and tried > the tangerine flavor too.  Now when I have extra money I get the > vanilla or sweet pea at Bath and Body Works. > At some point in there I started to *really* smell my hair. > Mmmmmmmmm > With hope and heart, > Kathleen > — > If you are humble nothing will touch you, neither praise nor disgrace, > because you know what you are. > ~Mother Theresa > : Don’t do it!  Just take a bath instead.  For the first three months > of > : my quit I took up to 12 per day as a way to relax and deal with the > : brain fog.  Took one just about every time I had a really horrible > : craving. > : > : Three months turned into three years.  Woo Hoo.  The healing power > of > : water : ) > : > : Adrienne > : > : p.s. Darjeeling tea with milk and honey doesn’t hurt either. > :

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Mmmmmmhmmmmmmm. For me it was jasmine scented bath salts (or the same flavor oil) in the bath, then jasmine shower jel, jasmine body mist for when the bath was over.  I bought the "Healing Garden Aromatherapy" brand and tried the tangerine flavor too.  Now when I have extra money I get the vanilla or sweet pea at Bath and Body Works. At some point in there I started to *really* smell my hair. Mmmmmmmmm With hope and heart, Kathleen — If you are humble nothing will touch you, neither praise nor disgrace, because you know what you are. ~Mother Theresa

: Don’t do it!  Just take a bath instead.  For the first three months of : my quit I took up to 12 per day as a way to relax and deal with the : brain fog.  Took one just about every time I had a really horrible : craving. : : Three months turned into three years.  Woo Hoo.  The healing power of : water : ) : : Adrienne : : p.s. Darjeeling tea with milk and honey doesn’t hurt either. :

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Don’t do it!  Just take a bath instead.  For the first three months of my quit I took up to 12 per day as a way to relax and deal with the brain fog.  Took one just about every time I had a really horrible craving. Three months turned into three years.  Woo Hoo.  The healing power of water : ) Adrienne p.s. Darjeeling tea with milk and honey doesn’t hurt either.

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All hail Queen Ari!!!! Pass the soap…. Lane  f3as3 — 2m  3w 5d 8:23 Smoke-Free. 3,500 cigarettes NOT smoked. $700.00 Money saved. 1w 5d 3:40 Life saved.. Read my "Diary of a Quitter" at http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Ah, Princess Ari!  Invite us into your palace. One day, 21 hours, 42 minutes and 1 second. 47 cigarettes not smoked, saving $4.76. Life saved: 3 hours, 55 minutes — Flower Power, CC Shuett

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Hi TrueLotus! Great progress! I love the throne room idea! Make sure you get yourself some kewl incense burners. Heat oils to anoint yourself (until your Radiance attracts the faithful to properly attend you). It’s always good to write notes, thoughts, decrees and the like, and the secret to good writing is of course very good paper … handmade parchment books or scrolls if you can swing it. And the one thing that would be handy for *both* intended uses of your throne room would be some good light reading! I’m going to follow your lead and clean up my grimy apartment, wash the smoke scum off of the windows and burn some sage. Have a great, clean weekend TL! -batch One week, one day, 16h, 53m, 56s. 174 cigs NOT smoked = $34.81. Life expectancy increased by 14 hours, 30 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: alt.support.stop-smoking Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:41 AM > Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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>Great progress! I love the throne room idea! Make sure you get yourself some >kewl >incense burners. Heat oils to anoint yourself (until your Radiance attracts >the >faithful to properly attend you). It’s always good to write notes, thoughts, >decrees and the like, and the secret to good writing is of course very good >paper >… handmade parchment books or scrolls if you can swing it. And the one >thing >that would be handy for *both* intended uses of your throne room would be >some >good light reading!

You’ve got it right on the money. I’m putting all types of facial creams, lotions, aromatherapy, etc. It might even leak into the "main" room adjacent to the "throne". >I’m going to follow your lead and clean up my grimy apartment, wash the smoke >scum off of the windows and burn some sage. Have a great, clean weekend TL!

Yes, I’m going to burn sage in my bathroom to get rid of the negative smoking energy. Right now my bathroom smells like lavendar, like the candle I burned. This is much more creative, positive and fun than just sucking in putrid smoke. Ari Ari’s Adventure Travel Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no real cravings. What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as long as I don’t smoke!). A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. Yahoo!! Ari Ari’s Adventure Travel Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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ges.com> writes >They help me.  A lot.  Especially when a couple drops are put into steam and >then inhaled.  Good ones are:  tea tree, eucalyptus, camphor, and mhyrr. >I’ve even put a few drops of each into a small bottle that can be carried >around and when my sinuses are really bothering me, simply open it up and >take a few long, slow sniffs, one nostril at a time. >Though to clear out your sinuses well steam inhalation really seems to work >the best.  If you suspect seasonal allergies, try taking stinging nettle >capsules.  2 every four hours or so does wonders.

One oil that works well in a steam bath for sinus problems is Ravensara aromatica >PJ.

– Graham Sorenson               Over 300 thousand visits to The Guide to Aromatherapy  http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk Thousands of links to alternative health sites 600 UK aromatherapy suppliers and practitioners listed.

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Does inhaling aroma oils really help sinuses? What would be a good one to try? Stephen Yorkshire UK

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They help me.  A lot.  Especially when a couple drops are put into steam and then inhaled.  Good ones are:  tea tree, eucalyptus, camphor, and mhyrr. I’ve even put a few drops of each into a small bottle that can be carried around and when my sinuses are really bothering me, simply open it up and take a few long, slow sniffs, one nostril at a time. Though to clear out your sinuses well steam inhalation really seems to work the best.  If you suspect seasonal allergies, try taking stinging nettle capsules.  2 every four hours or so does wonders. PJ. Astrology & New Age http://astrologynewage.com/ Garnered Images Astrology http://garneredimages.com/ Where beauty moves and wit delights and signs of kindness bind me, there, oh there, wher’ere I go, I leave my heart behind me. (Thomas Ford, 1607)

Does inhaling aroma oils really help sinuses? What would be a good one to try? Stephen Yorkshire UK

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My sinuses are irritated by gas heat, and lavendar oil has helped me a lot with that. I used to have a chronic sinus infection, and I got a lot of relief from the chiropracter.  The first time I had my neck adjusted, I felt my sinuses clear up!  It may or may not work for you, but if you can afford it, it’s worth a try. About a month ago, a nasty sinus infection went around at work.  I ate food loaded with chili peppers and garlic, and had the sinus infection for two days.  Other people went the traditional route, and had it for longer. Peg Before you buy.

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>> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated.

My sister swears by tea tree essential oil – I think she mixes about five drops in maybe a hundred millilitres of water then puts it in a spray bottle – one that has a very fine mist like an atomiser. Couple of squirts on the back of kitty’s neck every two weeks and seemingly no more fleas – she has two cats, and in all the time I’ve known them they’ve never had fleas (but I think with our cooler climate fleas aren’t as big a problems as they would be somewhere humid). She’s also used it with success on a fourteen year old grouchy tabby cat who was flea ridden and had allergic reactions to them besides, and none of the commercial products seemed to work. Happy cat now.  The only problem with using the spray is that it spooks her cats majorly and they go running when they see it. If you want more exact dosages and stuff email me and I’ll ask my sister next time I see her (I will point out here that even though I prefer to use Advantage on my cat, my sister is a qualified herbalist and does have two healthy flea free cats) Mere

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Oh dear Paige… we agree on something!!!! How frightening! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, Amy, > I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or > homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: > http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html > Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, > Paige > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Everyone is in unison, I think in terms of Advantage, but if you want to try something purely natural, I’ve heard Brewer’s Yeast repels fleas.  It’s hard to find it in powder form anymore but you can sprinkle it on food etc. if you do. I would check with the vet first to make sure it’s okay, but it’s a pretty benign substance (full of vitamins, too). > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

– Home Page:  http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/

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Hi, Amy, I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, Paige – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? Any help much appreciated. Amy Watson

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Go to your vet and get Front Line Top Spot.  It is a little more expensive than over the counter stuff but you don’t have to deal with flea collars, spraying or bombing the house or bathing your cat and applying flea spray or powder.  You apply it behind the cat’s neck and between the shoulder blades and it is very effective and kills all fleas and ticks (if there is a tick problem in your area) on the cat.  One dose lasts a month (I think there is 6 applications per box) and, within a couple of months of using it, you should be rid of fleas of the house too.  I used it on my cats a few years ago when I had a MAJOR flea problem in the house and I have not seen a flea since.  I used it for about 3 months and it did the job. — Barb In a cat’s eyes, all things belong to cats.              – English Proverb —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Amy, I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else again! Hope this helps, Karla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I’ll second the vote for Advantage. I have a multi-cat household with a constantly changing population. I’m always bringing in new foster cats. Advantage has *eliminated* my flea problems!! It kills all fleas on a new cat within 24 hours, and I never even see fleas on my other animals. (I have a mostly out door dog as well) I live in an area of the US were fleas are really bad, so if it works here it will work anywhere! One nice thing to know about Advantage is that the formula for cat and formula for dogs are exactly the same. Because I have so many animals I buy the largest volume size I can get, which happens to be the one for big dogs. I open up each individual little vial one at a time, put it in a little container and then dose out the right amount for each cat based on weight with a calibrated eye dropper. It saves me *tons* (like literally hundreds) to do it this way. If you have any questions about safety or dosage ask your vet!! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Amy, > I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, > far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve > ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month > (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t > remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the > time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any > more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because > it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has > also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it > hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to > see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips > only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I > lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else > again! > Hope this helps, > Karla > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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>> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated.

My sister swears by tea tree essential oil – I think she mixes about five drops in maybe a hundred millilitres of water then puts it in a spray bottle – one that has a very fine mist like an atomiser. Couple of squirts on the back of kitty’s neck every two weeks and seemingly no more fleas – she has two cats, and in all the time I’ve known them they’ve never had fleas (but I think with our cooler climate fleas aren’t as big a problems as they would be somewhere humid). She’s also used it with success on a fourteen year old grouchy tabby cat who was flea ridden and had allergic reactions to them besides, and none of the commercial products seemed to work. Happy cat now.  The only problem with using the spray is that it spooks her cats majorly and they go running when they see it. If you want more exact dosages and stuff email me and I’ll ask my sister next time I see her (I will point out here that even though I prefer to use Advantage on my cat, my sister is a qualified herbalist and does have two healthy flea free cats) Mere

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Oh dear Paige… we agree on something!!!! How frightening! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, Amy, > I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or > homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: > http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html > Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, > Paige > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Everyone is in unison, I think in terms of Advantage, but if you want to try something purely natural, I’ve heard Brewer’s Yeast repels fleas.  It’s hard to find it in powder form anymore but you can sprinkle it on food etc. if you do. I would check with the vet first to make sure it’s okay, but it’s a pretty benign substance (full of vitamins, too). > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

– Home Page:  http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/

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Hi, Amy, I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, Paige – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? Any help much appreciated. Amy Watson

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Go to your vet and get Front Line Top Spot.  It is a little more expensive than over the counter stuff but you don’t have to deal with flea collars, spraying or bombing the house or bathing your cat and applying flea spray or powder.  You apply it behind the cat’s neck and between the shoulder blades and it is very effective and kills all fleas and ticks (if there is a tick problem in your area) on the cat.  One dose lasts a month (I think there is 6 applications per box) and, within a couple of months of using it, you should be rid of fleas of the house too.  I used it on my cats a few years ago when I had a MAJOR flea problem in the house and I have not seen a flea since.  I used it for about 3 months and it did the job. — Barb In a cat’s eyes, all things belong to cats.              – English Proverb —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Amy, I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else again! Hope this helps, Karla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I’ll second the vote for Advantage. I have a multi-cat household with a constantly changing population. I’m always bringing in new foster cats. Advantage has *eliminated* my flea problems!! It kills all fleas on a new cat within 24 hours, and I never even see fleas on my other animals. (I have a mostly out door dog as well) I live in an area of the US were fleas are really bad, so if it works here it will work anywhere! One nice thing to know about Advantage is that the formula for cat and formula for dogs are exactly the same. Because I have so many animals I buy the largest volume size I can get, which happens to be the one for big dogs. I open up each individual little vial one at a time, put it in a little container and then dose out the right amount for each cat based on weight with a calibrated eye dropper. It saves me *tons* (like literally hundreds) to do it this way. If you have any questions about safety or dosage ask your vet!! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Amy, > I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, > far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve > ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month > (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t > remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the > time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any > more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because > it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has > also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it > hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to > see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips > only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I > lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else > again! > Hope this helps, > Karla > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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>> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated.

My sister swears by tea tree essential oil – I think she mixes about five drops in maybe a hundred millilitres of water then puts it in a spray bottle – one that has a very fine mist like an atomiser. Couple of squirts on the back of kitty’s neck every two weeks and seemingly no more fleas – she has two cats, and in all the time I’ve known them they’ve never had fleas (but I think with our cooler climate fleas aren’t as big a problems as they would be somewhere humid). She’s also used it with success on a fourteen year old grouchy tabby cat who was flea ridden and had allergic reactions to them besides, and none of the commercial products seemed to work. Happy cat now.  The only problem with using the spray is that it spooks her cats majorly and they go running when they see it. If you want more exact dosages and stuff email me and I’ll ask my sister next time I see her (I will point out here that even though I prefer to use Advantage on my cat, my sister is a qualified herbalist and does have two healthy flea free cats) Mere

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Oh dear Paige… we agree on something!!!! How frightening! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi, Amy, > I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or > homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: > http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html > Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, > Paige > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Everyone is in unison, I think in terms of Advantage, but if you want to try something purely natural, I’ve heard Brewer’s Yeast repels fleas.  It’s hard to find it in powder form anymore but you can sprinkle it on food etc. if you do. I would check with the vet first to make sure it’s okay, but it’s a pretty benign substance (full of vitamins, too). > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Hi, Amy, I prefer using Advantage, myself, but if you want a more "natural" or homeopathic solution, try checking out this web page: http://www.altvetmed.com/fleas.html Hope that helps.  Kisses to your kitties, Paige – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? Any help much appreciated. Amy Watson

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Go to your vet and get Front Line Top Spot.  It is a little more expensive than over the counter stuff but you don’t have to deal with flea collars, spraying or bombing the house or bathing your cat and applying flea spray or powder.  You apply it behind the cat’s neck and between the shoulder blades and it is very effective and kills all fleas and ticks (if there is a tick problem in your area) on the cat.  One dose lasts a month (I think there is 6 applications per box) and, within a couple of months of using it, you should be rid of fleas of the house too.  I used it on my cats a few years ago when I had a MAJOR flea problem in the house and I have not seen a flea since.  I used it for about 3 months and it did the job. — Barb In a cat’s eyes, all things belong to cats.              – English Proverb —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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Amy, I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else again! Hope this helps, Karla – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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I’ll second the vote for Advantage. I have a multi-cat household with a constantly changing population. I’m always bringing in new foster cats. Advantage has *eliminated* my flea problems!! It kills all fleas on a new cat within 24 hours, and I never even see fleas on my other animals. (I have a mostly out door dog as well) I live in an area of the US were fleas are really bad, so if it works here it will work anywhere! One nice thing to know about Advantage is that the formula for cat and formula for dogs are exactly the same. Because I have so many animals I buy the largest volume size I can get, which happens to be the one for big dogs. I open up each individual little vial one at a time, put it in a little container and then dose out the right amount for each cat based on weight with a calibrated eye dropper. It saves me *tons* (like literally hundreds) to do it this way. If you have any questions about safety or dosage ask your vet!! — Liz and the Kitty Mafia Miss Kitty, Pooh Bear, Tigger, Hai-Lee, Mia-Tu, Loki, Akasha, Tiberius, Fuki, Sundae, Max, and Guiness Visit us at: http://www.abbeyrescue.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Amy, > I think if I were you I’d get to a vet and get some Advantage. It’s far, > far better than anything else I’ve ever tried. No side effects that I’ve > ever seen, even in a cat with multiple allergies, it works for a month > (I’ve heard about it lasting 2-3 months in certain conditions, but don’t > remember where I heard this,) and most importantly, it WORKS. By the > time I broke down the cost (here, it’s $30 for 4 tubes), it wasn’t any > more expensive, and in fact it worked out to be a little cheaper because > it doesn’t have to be reapplied as often as lots of others.) It’s has > also been de-regulated and hopefully will hit store shelves soon if it > hasn’t already. My Maris is allergic to fleas, and I couldn’t stand to > see her constantly scratching – the powders and sprays didn’t work, dips > only lasted a couple of days, collars gave her sores around her neck. I > lost ALL those problems with Advantage, and will never use anything else > again! > Hope this helps, > Karla > I discovered this morning that one of my cats has fleas. I bought some > spray but wondered if anyone knew of any ‘alternative’ flea > deterrant/treatments that are effective for the future. I’m thinking > particularly of any aromatherapy type treatments? > Any help much appreciated. > Amy Watson

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>Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, >but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I say >more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. >First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have >him try maybe Valarian.   >I was wondering if there was something out there >that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there >is something better.

Valerian sucks.  It makes people groggy.  Try Kava Kava instead.  Buy a small amount of whatever you want to test and try it.  Try one herb at a time and see how it works.  When you have several that work, then alternate them, one one night and another the next night.  This way no accumulation problems will happen.  Chamomile and Lavender are supposed to be good.   Yoga just before bed works TERRIFIC!!!. Roger

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Hi Chrissie, Reducing the coffee intake is a good start. But have you heard of Melan Plus? It is a natural sleep aid.  It is a food supplement that feeds your own glands to produce your own natural  melatonin. Taking stuff with melatonin in it may be dangerous, so it is better to get your own body to make it’s own! It’s easy, just take some drops 30 mins before Have a Great Day! Susan

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As an alternative to melatonin (although that does work phenomenally well as long as you don’t take too much), you might want to try St. John’s Wort. I actually get a better night’s sleep when taking a Saint John’s Wort tablet (Extramin) before bedtime than when taking Melatonin (Megatonin500) because I have a tendancy to take too much Melatonin which results in me feeling a little groggy in the morning. I have just purchased Valerian Aromatherapy which is supposed to promote sleep as well, I’ll let you know how that goes Joe What’s Lurking In Your Bathroom? http://www.compuheaven.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> 5-HTP is good for insomnia if taken an hour before bed time. Melatonin can > also be very helpful, and it is also an antioxidant and should be taken in > the evening before bed time. >Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, >but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I > say >more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. >First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have >him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there >that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there >is something better.  Thanks in advance >Chrissie

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Passion Flower works well also….Valerian never has worked for me, but, it may have been the brands that I have used. Kava Kava works well also, but, should not be taken for extended periods of time then again, I never take any herb for extended peiods of time. Wanda – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >As an alternative to melatonin (although that does work phenomenally well as >long as you don’t take too much), you might want to try St. John’s Wort. >I actually get a better night’s sleep when taking a Saint John’s Wort tablet >(Extramin) before bedtime than when taking Melatonin (Megatonin500) because >I have a tendancy to take too much Melatonin which results in me feeling a >little groggy in the morning. >I have just purchased Valerian Aromatherapy which is supposed to promote >sleep as well, I’ll let you know how that goes >Joe >What’s Lurking In Your Bathroom? >http://www.compuheaven.com > 5-HTP is good for insomnia if taken an hour before bed time. Melatonin can > also be very helpful, and it is also an antioxidant and should be taken in > the evening before bed time. > >Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, > >but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I > say > >more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some >help. > >First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would >have > >him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there > >that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure >there > >is something better.  Thanks in advance > >Chrissie

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5-HTP is good for insomnia if taken an hour before bed time. Melatonin can also be very helpful, and it is also an antioxidant and should be taken in the evening before bed time. www.femhealth.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, >but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I say >more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. >First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have >him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there >that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there >is something better.  Thanks in advance >Chrissie

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Beings how he likes hot drinks,  have him try catnip tea. All I need is a couple cups and a book and I am out.  Don’t leave tea bags sitting out if you have a cat…makes a big mess! — Regards, Wanda Always lQQking for answers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, >but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I say >more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. >First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have >him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there >that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there >is something better.  Thanks in advance >Chrissie

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Hi Chrissie, Have your friend take a look at Pillow-Phonic. It’s a pillow with built-in digital speakers that he can connect to tape and CD players, stereo systems, radio, TV, etc. to listen to the sounds and music of his choice when he goes to bed — directly from within his pillow.  No Headphones. No bothering others in the same room, or even in the same bed. It’s private, so neat, and such a different sensation. Professionals in the stress management filed say that 30 minutes of the right kind of music (classical and the likes) before bed time, can do as much as 10 mm of Valium for many.  And this pillow is a great tool to do just that.  This would be a "natural" approach to his problem that can help him as it’s helping others. You can see details at:  http://www.pillow-phonic.com Hope this can help. Sincerely, Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, > but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I say > more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. > First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have > him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there > that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there > is something better.  Thanks in advance > Chrissie

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Hey I need a remedy for sleep.  I think it might be a bit stress related, but may have something to do with my friend works for Starbucks.  Need I say more.  Anyway he is really having a hard time sleeping and needs some help. First off I told him to slack of the caffiene.  Next I thought I would have him try maybe Valarian.  I was wondering if there was something out there that might be a bit better.  I use valarian alot myself but I am sure there is something better.  Thanks in advance Chrissie

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> I was thinking more along the lines of aromatherapy candles, rather than > room-freshening candles like Glade’s.  I use scented candles in concert with > meditation, and have other aromatherapy devices in my house.

Patricia, I do this as well.  Most aromatherapy is based on natural substances so I don’t worry about it much, other than trying not to bombard an area with scents. Of course, I wouldn’t surround the cages with candles – but sometimes common sense is the only real answer.  One reason not to use scented candles for meditation in the same room with larger birds is that the birds’ screaming and chatter would interfere with the mood!  I can see Coral going nuts bouncing off the side of her cage for my attention with her big old red crest up in the air and Shake over here saying, "Precious?  Wanna take a bath?  Where’s your toes?  COME HERE!!  COME ON!!"  with me in the middle at my asana blissfully unaware.  Yeah, right! — That Prematurely Eccentric Goddess, Kellie

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> While reading about parrots online, I came across a bunch of information about > airborne toxics.  I understand why cookware etc. can be a problem.  But in the > article, it also mentioned that scented candles are deadly to parrots.  Is this > true?  If so, why?  And would this still be true if the candle is burning in > the next room? How about scented bubble baths, perfume, etc. etc.?

To be honest, although I wouldn’t use Febreze (sorry for  using the F word) in the same room with my birds, I do, on occassion burn scented candles.  Not often, but the birds have indicated no stress from them.  I was doing this before I was told it was bad, and I continue to do so, although rarely in the same room with them. > I hope this question isn’t too silly.  I just don’t understand how a scent (as > opposed to a chemical substance) could kill a parrot.

Probably because it’s assumed the scent is caused by a chemical substance.  Because birds’ lungs are indeed quite sensitive, there are lots of scary stories about everything included Teflon, Febreze, Carpet Fresh, scented candles, perfumes, fireplaces, probably even halotosis in the owner.  Common sense seems to be the key.– That Prematurely Eccentric Goddess, Kellie

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While reading about parrots online, I came across a bunch of information about airborne toxics.  I understand why cookware etc. can be a problem.  But in the article, it also mentioned that scented candles are deadly to parrots.  Is this true?  If so, why?  And would this still be true if the candle is burning in the next room? How about scented bubble baths, perfume, etc. etc.? I hope this question isn’t too silly.  I just don’t understand how a scent (as opposed to a chemical substance) could kill a parrot. Thanks for the info! — patricia

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>I hope this question isn’t too silly.  I just don’t understand how a scent >(as >opposed to a chemical substance) could kill a parrot.

It isn’t a silly question at all.  Scents ARE chemical substances.  That is what makes a potato smell differently than an apple. Did you know that the smell of peanuts and shellfish can cause illness and death in people who are very sensitive? The same goes for scented candles.  The air is impregnated with a chemical (aroma) and because of the way birds breathe, that chemical is kept in their system 2x as long as ours.  If you know anyone with asthma, they will tell you that candles are painful, scented or not. Jennifer …man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but usually manages to pick himself up, walk over or around it, and carry on.  Winston S. Churchill

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> article, it also mentioned that scented candles are deadly to parrots.  Is this > true?  If so, why?  And would this still be true if the candle is burning in > the next room? How about scented bubble baths, perfume, etc. etc.?

You can check http://www.exoticbird.com/gillian/ for some specific archives for discussion on scented candles.  If I remember correctly, Glade brand scented candles are harmful — I don’t remember how or why, but check the discussion to be sure. The bottom line is, as deodorisers, scented candles either mask the offending odor with a stronger (and equally offensive) odor, or desensitise your sense of smell.  Having your sense of smell desensitised can cause damage over time.  This information was in a Vancouver-area newspaper a number of years ago. If there is no offending odor, then there’s no reason to use a deodoriser. Kevin — http://members.tripod.com/~super_kevin/

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First of all, I want to thank everyone who answered my scented-candle question, either here or via e-mail.  You are such helpful people! Second, regarding Kevin’s comment about fragrances and: <<If there is no offending odor, then there’s no reason to use a deodoriser.>> I was thinking more along the lines of aromatherapy candles, rather than room-freshening candles like Glade’s.  I use scented candles in concert with meditation, and have other aromatherapy devices in my house. Fortunately, I’ve been using them in rooms far away from my budgies — but I’m still glad to have the information you provided.  Without realizing the danger, I might easily have decided to burn one of my candles in my office, where my birds are.  I wish this problem were more widely publicized. — patricia

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Ok, I only have three so the cost won’t be too much of an issue, but, I am trying to find something nice and out of the ordinary.  Also, I want something special for the MOH!! Thanks for all help-my date is getting closer. -Linda

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I’m thinking about making them small drawstring purses made out of the same material as their dresses and then put a little trinket or something in it.  I still haven’t worked out the total details, but I’ve been feeling really crafty lately (as in craft-making), so it won’t be that hard. I’ve also seen small cedar boxes that have "Maid of Honor" and the like on the cover, they smell really nice. hope that helps some aubepine

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This is what I did…me and Bri are absolutely broke (like five bucks to our name for the last week ) My MOH is my sister, and she’s very much into poetry so I picked her up a nice bound notebook and a really nice pen and a candle…hers came up to about (25.00). My two bridesmaids, well this was tough, so I got them each a present bag (you know those bags you put presents in (doh nice explanation hehe), and purchased them a very fluffy towel, a couple candles, including an aromatherapy candle, some bath beads and nice smelling soaps, and bath fizzy powder that I got from the gift shop (kinda makes the water feel like you’re sitting in carbonated water *griN*). Anyway…it’s simple, not toooo expensive, for all three I spent about seventyfive bucks..which still hurt. Anyway all we have to do is buy for one more groomsman and get some of the stuff for the ring bearers’ kit. Fun fun fun, good luck, Les

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We need to find a new home for our two sun conures, approx. age 1 1/2. We are not looking to sell them – we want to to *give* them to a good breeder/home except for the recipient to pay shipping costs if not in the area. We, however, have no idea how to find a breeder or experienced sun conure owner who would be interested in them, and thus the reason for this post. We also have no idea how we could safely ship them if we found them a good out-of-state living environment via this forum so we’d be grateful for details on how to safely ship birds. We live in Metro-Detroit, Michigan so it would be wonderful to find someone rather close. We would be grateful for all inquiries any any other suggestions anyone might be able to offer. Below is detailed information on the bird’s backgrounds and then information on each bird. You can see a picture of them by visiting: http://www.flash.net/~aromaweb/birds.jpg or for a much larger version of the same photo: http://www.flash.net/~aromaweb/birds2.jpg The scoop… We (my friend/roommate and I) were given two sun-conures by a friend who originally bought them for her lover at her lover’s insistence. After their breakup, the birds had two additional homes until us – yet they are only about 1 1/2 years old. Two of the three homes were  with children who were slightly rough on the birds as kids can be (nothing drastic, but it still seriously bothered me to see them treated like that). We were warned these birds were loud (we have a mustache parakeet and he gets very loud!) but we felt why they might have been noisy in the other households was because they were (1) kept in separate cages instead of together, (2) they were manhandled, and (3) the love for a bird that comes from a real dedicated bird-lover wasn’t there. Well, we have come to the point where we must find them a new home due to the noise level. We love them so much, but they are especially loud when they want attention – which is always and we just don’t have the time with our increasingly busy schedules. I know Sun Conures are loud, but I expect these two might have behavioral issues because of their past treatment. Other than the noise, they are loving birds – not intensely affectionate (like our Mustache Parakeet), but they are affectionate and crave attention. The only time we were bit was after we first brought them home. The one can get rather mean to the other, but he tends to take it with very good stride. More Details: Our Location: Metro-Detroit Michigan Names: Zazu and Abu (named after Disney movie characters) Genders: Haven’t had them sexed, but I have this gut feeling Abu is male and Zazu is female (I can’t promise that – it’s just a *gut* feeling and I have been right on the money with three of my birds – I am by far a bird expert though.) Original Purchase Information: They were originally purchased at a pet store in Royal Oak, Michigan. Not sure of the name, but I do remember seeing the sales slip right after they were originally purchased by my friend. Unfortunately, the sales slip was lost by the time we were given the birds. We seem to place them as being purchased in late October, 1996 and that they were purchased for $900.00. To my eye, they looked like they were about 4-6 weeks old right after they were first purchased (they were *so cute!*). Please note, I am no expert on estimating age though but their feathers still hadn’t fully come in, if that makes sense. About Abu: He is the sweetie of the two. He bobs his head up and down and will do so on command. He’s the first one to come see you and is the quieter of the two. Zazu pushes him away when food is near and he takes it with wonderful stride. About Zazu: As mentioned, she’s the tough biddy of the two. She is still very sweet and loving, but she definitely can have an attitude. Other details about them: Neither talks. They are affectionate and will come to you. They love showers and baths. Abu prefers the shower and Zazu prefers the bath. About the jpg photo at http://www.flash.net/~aromaweb/birds.jpg This photo was taken about seven months ago (right after we got them). Notice Abu’s tail feathers are very rumpled. Both the birds’ tail feathers were in bad shape when we got them, but are beautiful now. I’m sure I’m forgetting lots of information, so please do e-mail me with questions! What we’re looking for in their new home: -Someone who has experience with Sun Conures. Ideally a breeder or experienced Sun Conure owner. We don’t want them going from home to home for the rest of their lives so we are looking for someone who can somehow assure us they are an experienced breeder or Sun Conure owner. – Someone who can tolerate their noise level even if they are noisier than the typical noisy Sun Conure. – Someone who can explain to us how to ship them safely if shipped out of the area and can pay the shipping fee up front (I have references to assure you I won’t walk off with your up-front shipping fee). Sincerely, Wendy Robbins For Non-Commercial Aromatherapy Information, visit AromaWeb at: http://www.aromaweb.com/

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>d >Sun Conure owner. We don’t want them going from home to home for the rest of >their lives so we are looking for someone who can somehow assure us they are >an >experienced breeder or Sun Conure owner.

Please contact me by phone so I can give you information on a nine page adoption contract to avoid your darlings any sell or passing along from one sell to another. sometimes, people have good intentions, however life passes out some challanges from time to time and the sale of a free bird looks very "found money"  when these times come around. THis contract will see that you get your birds back if that time comes.  I have been thinking of putting this contract somewhere to help all "free’ birds, but thought I would see how it goes for a while with those I have placed.  THus, so far, it has saved my Dorothy , the Moluccan from a "sale" for needed money. The people thought they deserved the money  as they had her only one year.  Ha, it took me three years to get her able to look like a bird, much less, a moluccan. I have to know your real  identity before I give you any information. Cherane    "Quality            is never an accident; it is always the result of high intention, sincere effort, intelligent direction and skillful execution; it represents the wise choice of many alternatives"      

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unable to do so.      I’d love to offer the sun conures a "permanent" home.  It so upsets me to see birds going from home to home.  Would they do the same thing with their children if they misbehaved?   When you see the stress they go through when being introduced to something as simple as a new cage, imagine their fear of totally new families.      I recently lost my Quaker Shannon and feel the need to give love and companionship to a bird that really needs it.  If you don’t find someone close to you, I’ll be glad to pay to have them shipped to me.  Hopefully, the stress of shipping will be worth having them in a permanent home.  I live in the country and have experience with a Nanday Conure so noise is no problem.  

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> Hi all and Loki, in a message a while ago you mentioned you used (I think) > lemon oil (aromatherapy) with water for cleaning. Would you mind giving me > abit more detail on this and any other oils / natural methods used for > cleaning? or if there is a web site I could look at for this. Thank you > very much. I’ve just gotten out of hospital and meant to send this sooner. > Cheers

No problem.  Actually, some of them I don’t use every day and I will go look them up (which I have to do when I want to use them anyway). What I do use every day is the essential oil of lemon.  I generally use it in the kitchen as it is such a good grease cutter.  I just put a couple of drops on my sponge (which I replace weekly) and wipe down the counter tops as I normally would.  It leaves a wonderful smell too. I use baking soda to scrub the basins and bathtub.   I have somewhere a list of natural cleaning ideas.  One of them is for cleaning windows.  It is 1 part vinegar, 1 part water and 1 part alcohol.  I don’t use it because the fumes are worse than the regular stuff.   My favorite brass polish is just a lemon cut in wedges and sprinkled with salt.  Rub it over the brass then rinse and dry. You can also make one from equal parts of flour, vinegar and salt. I don’t have any URL’s but hopefully someone else will. Loki

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Hi all and Loki, in a message a while ago you mentioned you used (I think) lemon oil (aromatherapy) with water for cleaning. Would you mind giving me abit more detail on this and any other oils / natural methods used for cleaning? or if there is a web site I could look at for this. Thank you very much. I’ve just gotten out of hospital and meant to send this sooner. Cheers

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>I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.  

You could just find a large health food store where the supplements are cheap.  I do not think that any of these should cost more than $8 per 100 capsules for brands like Now, Nature’s Herbs, or Nature’s Way. Otherwise, you can buy them in bulk and grind them to a powder yourself.  Figure that 1/4 teaspoon powder = 1 capsule for dosage.  Mix them with lemon and honey to mask the taste and eat.  Or, do what I do for taking bulk powders and vitamins with bad taste:  put them in a 1/4 teaspoon scoop and toss them to the back of your throat as you tilt your head back and chase with some juice. You might choke a bit on the powder until you get used to this, but after a while, you can get good at it.  "Throwing" it past your tongue will reduce the taste since it will not contact the taste buds. turf

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You say that 1/4 teaspoon = 1 capsule, but how many milligrams would that be? Joe – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.   >You could just find a large health food store where the supplements >are cheap.  I do not think that any of these should cost more than $8 >per 100 capsules for brands like Now, Nature’s Herbs, or Nature’s Way. >Otherwise, you can buy them in bulk and grind them to a powder >yourself.  Figure that 1/4 teaspoon powder = 1 capsule >for dosage.  Mix them with lemon and honey to mask the taste >and eat.  Or, do what I do for taking bulk powders and vitamins with >bad taste:  put them in a 1/4 teaspoon scoop and toss them to the back >of your throat as you tilt your head back and chase with some juice. >You might choke a bit on the powder until you get used to this, but >after a while, you can get good at it.  "Throwing" it past your tongue >will reduce the taste since it will not contact the taste buds. >turf

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.   >You could just find a large health food store where the supplements >are cheap.  I do not think that any of these should cost more than $8 >per 100 capsules for brands like Now, Nature’s Herbs, or Nature’s Way. >Otherwise, you can buy them in bulk and grind them to a powder >yourself.  Figure that 1/4 teaspoon powder = 1 capsule >for dosage.  Mix them with lemon and honey to mask the taste >and eat.  Or, do what I do for taking bulk powders and vitamins with >bad taste:  put them in a 1/4 teaspoon scoop and toss them to the back >of your throat as you tilt your head back and chase with some juice. >You might choke a bit on the powder until you get used to this, but >after a while, you can get good at it.  "Throwing" it past your tongue >will reduce the taste since it will not contact the taste buds. >turf

i have used valerian for years as a ‘calmative’ and to help with insomnia – it is also excellent with ‘hyper’ dogs and horses. Take about a teaspoonful and steep in boiling water until cool.  Strain and drink – you can add a little lemon or vinegar (both of which help lower the pH beneficially) — nick westcott

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.  I know that making teas is one possible way, but since this >will probably make me have to get up to use the bathroom in the night, I >would rather avoid teas. >Can anybody give me advice on how to take these herbs to help me sleep? >Can I just crush them to a powder and swallow them with a small amount of >water?  If I were to do this, how much should I take?  Are there any other >ways of using these herbs to help me sleep? >Thank you in advance for any replies! >Rebecca

You could also try putting a few drops of lavender essential oil on your pillow.  It smells delightful and will help you sleep.  Lavender is a very gentle essential oil, and can safely be used to help young children sleep, too. If you don’t have any local sources of essential oils, I found some mail-order sources after reading the alt.aromatherapy newsgroup. Pattie Fulton

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Hi all. I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, and chamomile might help.   My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are so expensive.  I know that making teas is one possible way, but since this will probably make me have to get up to use the bathroom in the night, I would rather avoid teas. Can anybody give me advice on how to take these herbs to help me sleep? Can I just crush them to a powder and swallow them with a small amount of water?  If I were to do this, how much should I take?  Are there any other ways of using these herbs to help me sleep? Thank you in advance for any replies! Rebecca

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>Hi all. >I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.

You could buy one of those capsule filling gadgets and some empty capsules and fill your own capsules with your own herbal blend. One of those inexpensive coffee grinders can be used to grind the herbs into a fine powder. —         "Hey! You got your razor in my wager!"

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Please keep in mind that valerian is addictive. It may be helpful on the odd occasion (or it may not), but it is addictive is used regularily. Another Thyme Renaissance Farm <http://mypage.direct.ca/t/thymetoo>

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>>I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive. >You could buy one of those capsule filling gadgets and some empty >capsules and fill your own capsules with your own herbal blend. One >of those inexpensive coffee grinders can be used to grind the herbs >into a fine powder.

I uses a blender to grind c/s herbs up finely before filling capsules. Also there are tinctures available for persons who don’t want to make teas. Don Herbs, Minerals & Goods Herbs, Essiac Tea, Essential Oils and Absolutes, Health Minerals http://www.top.net/harouffd/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Hi all. >I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.  I know that making teas is one possible way, but since this >will probably make me have to get up to use the bathroom in the night, I >would rather avoid teas. >Can anybody give me advice on how to take these herbs to help me sleep? >Can I just crush them to a powder and swallow them with a small amount of >water?  If I were to do this, how much should I take?  Are there any other >ways of using these herbs to help me sleep? >Thank you in advance for any replies! >Rebecca

Hi Rebecca, Just mix 1 oz of your herbs with 1 pint of vodka or alcool (40 %), mix well and keep on a closed containner for 2 weeks, shake daily. Then filter the mixture and you have a tincture of your herbs. Take 30-60 drops as needed. I hope this helps, Richard

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Hi all. >I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >and chamomile might help.   >My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >so expensive.  I know that making teas is one possible way, but since this >will probably make me have to get up to use the bathroom in the night, I >would rather avoid teas. >Can anybody give me advice on how to take these herbs to help me sleep? >Can I just crush them to a powder and swallow them with a small amount of >water?  If I were to do this, how much should I take?  Are there any other >ways of using these herbs to help me sleep? >Thank you in advance for any replies! >Rebecca

Valerian and scullcap are excellent you dont need the other herbs. take them as a tissane or tea, using just off the boil water, both herbs are woody and need to be soaked in the hot water for about 40 min. — The ‘Old Craft’ lady               http://www.oldcity.demon.co.uk/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->>I am interested in taking some herbs to help me sleep at night.  I have >>done some research, and have found out that valerian, hops, passionflower, >>and chamomile might help.   >>My problem is that I do not know what the best way is to take these >>herbs.  I would like to avoid buying commercial capsules, since they are >>so expensive. >You could buy one of those capsule filling gadgets and some empty >capsules and fill your own capsules with your own herbal blend. One >of those inexpensive coffee grinders can be used to grind the herbs >into a fine powder. > I uses a blender to grind c/s herbs up finely before filling capsules. > Also there are tinctures available for persons who don’t want to make > teas. > Don > Herbs, Minerals & Goods > Herbs, Essiac Tea, Essential Oils and Absolutes, Health Minerals > http://www.top.net/harouffd/

Hi. call 1-800-555-1212 and ask for Atlantic Spice in Cape Cod,Mass.They have great prices. or try Blessed Herbs also in massechuesetts.Lemon grass is also good for insomnia and lavender too. Good Luck,Spunky7 at

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