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Cruise Review:  Carnival Ecstasy 11/23/01 3 night Ensenada Introduction This was our 8th cruise together. We decided to go on this particular cruise just a few weeks ago.  We wanted to do something for Thanksgiving, and decided that a cruise the day after would be a good way to enjoy the weekend. We also took my wife’s parents with us for this cruise.  This was our third time sailing with Carnival, and our fourth cruise in 2001.  This was our first experience on a Fantasy Class ship, as our previous Carnival cruises were both on the Destiny.  I will say up front that we had an enjoyable cruise on the Ecstasy. Pre Cruise We live in San Diego, and had never actually taken a cruise from the West Coast, so we actually enjoyed not flying in a day ahead.  We drove to the pier, and parking was abundant.  The charge was $10 a day, payable immediately. Embarkation Check-in was very easy.  We got to the pier at a little after Noon. My mother-in-law uses a wheelchair, and a Carnival rep. escorted us to special assistance check-in.  After giving us our sail and sign cards, we took the elevator up to the boarding level where another Carnival rep. got us our room keys.  One more stop to get our photo taken for the sail and sign card, and we were on board.  Our one bag we left with the porters made it to our cabin fairly quickly.  (We actually planned on carrying it on board our selves, but it was too big for carry on size x-ray machine). Our Cabin We had cabin M-106, a Category 6B outside cabin, right in the middle of the ship.  The cabin itself was very functional, and there was plenty of storage space.  We are now totally spoiled, and prefer a balcony cabin, but for a three-day cruise we didn’t think that it was worth the money to go for Category 11 or 12. We met our Cabin Stewardess, Erika from Romania right after the lifeboat drill.  She put both beds together for us, and did a good job keeping the cabin tidy.  We did get one towel animal on the second night of the cruise. At the Captain’s cocktail party on the second night, Erika was also one of the servers, and when she saw us sit down, she ran over immediately to offer us appetizers.  I thought she did a very good job overall. The Ship For a 10 year-old ship, the Ecstasy was in pretty good shape.  We did not notice any strange smells, the elevators worked for the most part, and the carpets showed only mild wear and tear.  If you like neon and flashy colors, the Ecstasy is your ship.  The ship’s layout is very easy to navigate.  The bottom three passenger decks have staterooms only.  The Empress deck has staterooms as well as the photo gallery and the Purser’s desk. Continuing our way upward, the Atlantic deck has the kids play room, both dining rooms, (named Wind Song and Wind Star) as well as the library, card room, shopping area and lower level of the main show lounge, called the Blue Sapphire lounge.  The next deck up is the Promenade deck.  Here you will find the upper level of the Blue Sapphire lounge, the casino, the Metropolis Bar, the Chinatown club, the Rolls Royce Caf

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Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. You can see her pic at: http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing some cuties. Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on >Advantage >now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. >Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using >to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to >help >her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. >You can see her pic at: >http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm >I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing >some cuties.

I had a very bad experience with my cat last Spring with OTC product form Hartz Mountain.  I had used their OTC flea remedy (the kind you put on back of the neck once a month?) and my cat became very, very ill, including convulsions. I’m so wary now of any OTC products since cats have such a different system than our own. (This of course is Hartz Mt’s fault…alot of these products are NOT safe..I have since learned) To be on the safe side, I would call my vet and ask what you could use on your kitty. Cheri:)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage > now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. > Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using > to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help > her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. > You can see her pic at: > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm > I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing > some cuties. > Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady > Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" > named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

Wow cute kitties. I love that one of Buttons resting her chin with her eyes closed. Adorable!

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Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. You can see her pic at: http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing some cuties. Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on >Advantage >now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. >Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using >to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to >help >her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. >You can see her pic at: >http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm >I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing >some cuties.

I had a very bad experience with my cat last Spring with OTC product form Hartz Mountain.  I had used their OTC flea remedy (the kind you put on back of the neck once a month?) and my cat became very, very ill, including convulsions. I’m so wary now of any OTC products since cats have such a different system than our own. (This of course is Hartz Mt’s fault…alot of these products are NOT safe..I have since learned) To be on the safe side, I would call my vet and ask what you could use on your kitty. Cheri:)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage > now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. > Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using > to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help > her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. > You can see her pic at: > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm > I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing > some cuties. > Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady > Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" > named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

Wow cute kitties. I love that one of Buttons resting her chin with her eyes closed. Adorable!

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Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. You can see her pic at: http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing some cuties. Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on >Advantage >now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. >Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using >to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to >help >her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. >You can see her pic at: >http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm >I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing >some cuties.

I had a very bad experience with my cat last Spring with OTC product form Hartz Mountain.  I had used their OTC flea remedy (the kind you put on back of the neck once a month?) and my cat became very, very ill, including convulsions. I’m so wary now of any OTC products since cats have such a different system than our own. (This of course is Hartz Mt’s fault…alot of these products are NOT safe..I have since learned) To be on the safe side, I would call my vet and ask what you could use on your kitty. Cheri:)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mimi, a 7mo kitty, had a bit of a reaction to a flea bite. She is on Advantage > now, but still licks her tummy occasionally, resulting in a red hot spot. > Someone recommended Lanacaine, someone else Neosporin (which I remember using > to help a feral cat some years ago). I would like to use an OTC remedy to help > her, as putting her in the carrier to go to the vet traumatizes her greatly. > You can see her pic at: > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady/kittens.htm > I have other cat pages linked from that page, if you’re interested in seeing > some cuties. > Visit my "Aromatherapy Debunked and Defended" site > http://member.newsguy.com/~herblady > Bob Marley and the Wailers album "Exodus" > named "Album of the Century" by Time magazine

Wow cute kitties. I love that one of Buttons resting her chin with her eyes closed. Adorable!

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> YEEESSSS!!! Alex, bless you many times over:) Oh, thank you! > Shovels, Donnah > Hi Donnah > Is this the picture your looking for? > http://barna.dns2go.com/friends/pass_colors.jpg

 Donna, since my e-mail reply bounced, you didn’t  read the story about the WTC flag.  The Navy had  requested that flag for the USS Abraham Lincoln.  After some talk back and forth between FDNY ("my  firefighters are guarding it with their lives")  and the Navy, the flag was given to the Navy and  has been replaced with a new one at WTC.

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Thank you so much, Joe, for the background info. I deeply appreciate it. I have enlarged the sketch and am copying it for the patriots in the office. Blessings, Donnah – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> YEEESSSS!!! Alex, bless you many times over:) Oh, thank you! > Shovels, Donnah >> Hi Donnah >> Is this the picture your looking for? >> http://barna.dns2go.com/friends/pass_colors.jpg >  Donna, since my e-mail reply bounced, you didn’t >  read the story about the WTC flag.  The Navy had >  requested that flag for the USS Abraham Lincoln. >  After some talk back and forth between FDNY ("my >  firefighters are guarding it with their lives") >  and the Navy, the flag was given to the Navy and >  has been replaced with a new one at WTC.

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YEEESSSS!!! Alex, bless you many times over:) Oh, thank you! Shovels, Donnah Looking for the Pony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Hi Donnah > Is this the picture your looking for? > http://barna.dns2go.com/friends/pass_colors.jpg > GramPaHugs, > Alex, > Two words. And I really appreciate your looking for it! I had marked it > for printing later and forgot to do so before I shut down > ATT…..nothing like brain soup to mess you up. > The picture was a hand-drawn sketch,almost rough in appearance and so > very beautiful. Two unsung heroes….fireman to soldier. > Thanks again,Joe. I’m trying to remember what sites I had visited that > sleepless night. > Shovels, Donnah > Looking for the Pony > <SNIPPED>  :) > — >  Any information is included for informational >  or entertainment purposes only, >  No endorsement is implied or intended. > * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w   M/SP Mn > * Care giver to THE SACRED TEMPLE CATS of the Kingdom of W.H.I.N.E. > * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii/whine.html">AOL Click</a> > * Medical Links,  Photo’s http://barna.dns2go.com/ > * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii/medical.htm">AOL Click</a> > * Don’t worry about life, > *  you’re not going to survive it anyway

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free trial. They were supposed to notify my buddies. Nuts… Were you able to find out anything about that picture? I want it badly:) Shovels, Donnah Looking for the Pony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Donnah wrote in reply to QuanYin9: > Ah Ha! a fellow Aquarius:) >  Donna, I’m not ignoring your e-mail.  I sent a >  reply and att bounced it back because you don’t >  exist.

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 Is that two words "pinkie flying"? > Were you able to find out anything about that picture? I want > it badly:)

 I haven’t heard from anyone, anyplace I put out feelers.  But I’ll keep trying….hang in there. … Firemen still use split lays.

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Two words. And I really appreciate your looking for it! I had marked it for printing later and forgot to do so before I shut down ATT…..nothing like brain soup to mess you up. The picture was a hand-drawn sketch,almost rough in appearance and so very beautiful. Two unsung heroes….fireman to soldier. Thanks again,Joe. I’m trying to remember what sites I had visited that sleepless night. Shovels, Donnah Looking for the Pony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >  Is that two words "pinkie flying"? > Were you able to find out anything about that picture? I want > it badly:) >  I haven’t heard from anyone, anyplace I put out feelers. >  But I’ll keep trying….hang in there. > … Firemen still use split lays.

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Hi Donnah Is this the picture your looking for? http://barna.dns2go.com/friends/pass_colors.jpg GramPaHugs, Alex, > Two words. And I really appreciate your looking for it! I had marked it > for printing later and forgot to do so before I shut down > ATT…..nothing like brain soup to mess you up. > The picture was a hand-drawn sketch,almost rough in appearance and so > very beautiful. Two unsung heroes….fireman to soldier. > Thanks again,Joe. I’m trying to remember what sites I had visited that > sleepless night. > Shovels, Donnah > Looking for the Pony

<SNIPPED>  :) —  Any information is included for informational  or entertainment purposes only,  No endorsement is implied or intended. * Love radiating from 45.10n x 93.30w   M/SP Mn * Care giver to THE SACRED TEMPLE CATS of the Kingdom of W.H.I.N.E. * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii/whine.html">AOL Click</a> * Medical Links,  Photo’s http://barna.dns2go.com/ * <a href="http://home.mn.rr.com/apbiii/medical.htm">AOL Click</a> * Don’t worry about life, *  you’re not going to survive it anyway

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I came home to my secret sender box today.  I just love the strange way things connect up in this world.  It is foggy today in Santa Cruz.  I know I need to get my SAD light out.  I am missing the sun.  I open my box and I have a beautiful sun catcher that is actually a sun!  I am Aquarius-I need the sun and today I really need it and there it is! I also got two boxes of aromatherapy candles and a candle holder.  I am a happy camper! Thanks.   M

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Donnah wrote in reply to QuanYin9: > Ah Ha! a fellow Aquarius:)

 Donna, I’m not ignoring your e-mail.  I sent a  reply and att bounced it back because you don’t  exist.

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>I came home to my secret sender box today.  I just love the strange way things >connect up in this world.  It is foggy today in Santa Cruz.  I know I need to >get my SAD light out.  I am missing the sun.  I open my box and I have a >beautiful sun catcher that is actually a sun!  I am Aquarius-I need the sun and >today I really need it and there it is!

I’m thinking it’s time for a bay area minigimpfest. :) ` Mary – http://www.prado.com/~iris "We will not last and we know we will not — and we still write, carve, build, paint, and plant to last. We are, it seems to me, very, very brave." – Linda Ellerbee

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Ah Ha! a fellow Aquarius:) It took me over 50 years to "bloom" and I haven’t stopped yet….and I don’t intend to,either! Blessings,Donna Looking for the Pony – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I came home to my secret sender box today.  I just love the strange way things > connect up in this world.  It is foggy today in Santa Cruz.  I know I need to > get my SAD light out.  I am missing the sun.  I open my box and I have a > beautiful sun catcher that is actually a sun!  I am Aquarius-I need the sun and > today I really need it and there it is! > I also got two boxes of aromatherapy candles and a candle holder.  I am a happy > camper! > Thanks. > M

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That doesn’t surprise me a bit.  It’s what I would have guessed-either aquarius or Sag. We really are sisters in spirit. M

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>Let me know what questions you would like answered by the experts in >various fields of Alternative Health.

For starters … do they have any double-blind clinical studioes to back up their vlaims, or are they doing NewAge woo-woo voo-doo (not that I have anything against witch doctering, but when I do it, I know that’s what I’m doing) Tsu Dho Nimh When faced with choice between changing one’s mind and proving there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof. John Kenneth Galbraith

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Hi everyone My name is Lisa van den Berg and I am starting an e-zine on Alternative Health for Beginners. Let me know what questions you would like answered by the experts in various fields of Alternative Health. Fields ranging from Aromatherapy, Reflexology, Magnotherapy, Crystal Healing, Reiki, Meditation and Ayurveda, just to mention a few. The e-zine will include resources on where to buy products, how to find a practitioner, articles of interest on a different therapy every week, tips and tricks and much, much more. I look forward to helping you find valuable, reliable sources of alternative therapies to improve your life, the natural way.

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And after you "get" those five you got to ask the grouchy old asshole Bob W before you can even think about sucking one of them little white dog dicks. Bob W QOF

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just remember this. Before you smoke you must ask for permission on this > group. You must have 5? people say its ok. Personnally I think the rule > should change to 5 OFs saying yes. So just remember that. Take care and also > remember this rule. Take what you need give what you can. > hello everyone – > I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks > without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & > thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers > past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I > couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve > forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone > out there. > A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing > the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 > smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of > lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out > regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to > American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and > off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 > days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a > solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? > It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of > healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a > relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. > But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long > time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that > I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my > non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and > asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them > back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my > meter! > spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not > allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not > allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into > hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride > and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 > every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of > everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and > part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. > My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more > posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to > catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate > this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit > and still have time to support all the rest of us. > Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far > longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel > like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am > scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, > janet > Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not > smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life > saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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Wow, thanks for the great welcome, folks, and all the support!  I will try to stick around and post, but mostly I will try to stick to NOT SMOKING. (argh, an angry moment passes as I post).  Of course, it’s worth struggling through day 22 just to get the following, which I’ve been watching and wanting a set for my very own :) >   _o/          __|       /        |__             o     *o/* >    |     __o     o     |       o/       o/_     /|      | >   / )   /) |      (   /o     / )      /  <(    / |     / >  padders is doing cartwheels and shaking her pompoms for ya!

thanks padders & everyone! cheers, janet Three weeks, 22 hours, 23 minutes and 43 seconds. 131 cigarettes not smoked, saving $23.03. Life saved: 10 hours, 55 minutes.

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Dear Janet, Keep up the great quit! You are doing fabulous!!!!!!! Very nice to make your acquaintance! Janet There was never a genius without a tincture of madness. Aristotle

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> janet > Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not > smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life > saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

I really enjoyed reading your post, Janet.  Thanks for coming out into the light where we can see you.  Six may not seem like a big number, but this statistic may help you: Lung cancer risk increases roughly 50 to 100 percent for each cigarette you smoke per day. Damn, I lost the citation on that one too. Oh well. Congratulations and good luck!  I hope to see you here lots. -jw  Mr. LaBoingy has not smoked even one single solitary puff for:  One week, three days, 13 hours, 59 minutes and 23 seconds. 317 cigarettes not smoked, saving $87.31, which amount his wife will gladly spend wherever she sees fit.

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Hi Janet, As a reader/lurker, I’m sure you know I’m always behind. *grin* So… two days late, welcome and congratulations on your WWWs :) ) Glad to see a new face posting. Hope to see more of you. Nicole 4m 3w 6d+ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->hello everyone – >I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks >without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & >thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers >past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I >couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve >forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone >out there. >A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing >the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 >smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of >lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out >regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to >American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and >off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 >days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a >solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? >It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of >healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a >relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. >But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long >time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that >I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my >non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and >asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them >back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my >meter! >spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not >allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not >allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into >hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride >and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 >every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of >everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and >part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. >My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more >posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to >catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate >this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit >and still have time to support all the rest of us. >Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far >longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel >like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am >scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, >janet >Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not >smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life >saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

If you hold up your head with a smile on your face and are truly thankful… you are blessed because the majority can, but most do not.

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WTG Janet. And, I know exactly what you mean by those last 6. I was down to 5 a day or less before I quit, and they are hard to let go. The old junkie thinking kicks in "Oh! you’re only smoking a few that can’t hurt". Well over time as you realized, it does. Sounds like you’re doing all the right stuff and have the right attitude. Keep fighting. GregB, One year, two months, four weeks, one day, 8 hours, 7 minutes and 49 seconds. 4553 cigarettes not smoked, saving $728.54. Life saved: 2 weeks, 1 day, 19 hours, 25 minutes.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hello everyone – > I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks > without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & > thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers > past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I > couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve > forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone > out there. > A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing > the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 > smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of > lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out > regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to > American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and > off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 > days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a > solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? > It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of > healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a > relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. > But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long > time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that > I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my > non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and > asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them > back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my > meter! > spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not > allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not > allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into > hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride > and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 > every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of > everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and > part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. > My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more > posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to > catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate > this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit > and still have time to support all the rest of us. > Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far > longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel > like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am > scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, > janet > Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not > smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life > saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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Just remember this. Before you smoke you must ask for permission on this group. You must have 5? people say its ok. Personnally I think the rule should change to 5 OFs saying yes. So just remember that. Take care and also remember this rule. Take what you need give what you can.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hello everyone – > I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks > without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & > thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers > past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I > couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve > forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone > out there. > A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing > the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 > smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of > lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out > regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to > American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and > off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 > days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a > solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? > It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of > healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a > relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. > But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long > time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that > I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my > non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and > asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them > back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my > meter! > spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not > allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not > allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into > hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride > and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 > every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of > everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and > part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. > My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more > posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to > catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate > this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit > and still have time to support all the rest of us. > Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far > longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel > like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am > scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, > janet > Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not > smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life > saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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janet-      It was great of you to stop by and share you story. Keep hanging around.      You’re doing a great job.      I quit CT too and know how you feel. It will get better. Judi One month, one day, 16 hours, 33 minutes and 39 seconds. 1471 cigarettes not smoked, saving $294.21. Life saved: 5 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->hello everyone – >I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks >without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & >thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers >past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I >couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve >forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone >out there. >A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing >the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 >smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of >lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out >regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to >American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and >off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 >days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a >solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? >It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of >healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a >relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. >But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long >time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that >I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my >non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and >asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them >back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my >meter! >spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not >allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not >allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into >hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride >and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 >every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of >everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and >part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. >My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more >posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to >catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate >this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit >and still have time to support all the rest of us. >Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far >longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel >like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am >scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, >janet >Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not >smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life >saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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hello everyone – I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone out there. A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my meter! spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit and still have time to support all the rest of us. Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, janet Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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You’re doing great.  I am also looking forward to being smokfree on my birthday.  July 11 I’ll be 33.  All those illnesses and such have a  higher risk after 30 for everyone but, especially females.  We are at a higher risk of osteoporosis and breast cancer.  With all the new aches and pains I acquire each day, that didease really scared me.  Then I heard more women were dying of lung disease, that really scraed me after realizing I had suffered from a cough for over 2 months.  Took a trip to the doc and was diagnosed with early emphysema and asthma.  Treatment for the asthma and quitting smoking has helped with that.  I wish you all the luck with your quit.  as3 has really helped me with my quit. WTG Janet! Robin 2w13h

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> hello everyone – > I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks > without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & > thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers > past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I > couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve > forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone > out there. > A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing > the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 > smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of > lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out > regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to > American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and > off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 > days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a > solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? > It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of > healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a > relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. > But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long > time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that > I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my > non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and > asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them > back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my > meter! > spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not > allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not > allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into > hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride > and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 > every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of > everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and > part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. > My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more > posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to > catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate > this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit > and still have time to support all the rest of us. > Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far > longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel > like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am > scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, > janet > Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not > smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life > saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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Cool! A de-lurking. I wonder how many more there are… anyway – nice to meetcha Janet – be strong sister! John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >hello everyone – >I couldn’t sleep last night, thinking about how I’ve lasted 3 weeks >without a smoke… calmed myself by deciding to post FINALLY to as3 & >thank all you wonderful posters for giving me (and LOTS of lurkers >past present & future) what it takes to stick with it.  Then I >couldn’t sleep, composing a message in my head – and now I’ve >forgotten it so let me just send a big sweet-breath smooch to everyone >out there. >A short story about me – started smoking in college after observing >the habits of cool people I admired… cut down from 1 pack/day to 6 >smokes/day at age 23 as part of a wildly successful string of >lifestyle changes (also went vegetarian and started working out >regularly at the same time)… switched from a major evil brand to >American Spirits 8 years ago or so… started trying to quit on and >off (mostly off) 5 years ago, quits lasting between 6 hours and 6 >days, *SIGH*  Who would have thought that 6 cigarettes a day, and a >solitary, inconvenient 6 at that, would be so damn hard to let go? >It’s been easy to justify smoking – a lifestyle otherwise full of >healthy habits (so I’m overcompensating for smoking, right, LOL!), a >relatively few cigs a day, and "all-natural" ones at that, etc. etc. >But I’ve been feeling inconsistent and troubled about it for a long >time, and as I approached my 36th birthday (June 11) I realized that >I’ll have spent half my life as a smoker.  Horrifying.  I gave my >non-smoking spouse my last half-pack near midnight on the 10th and >asked him to hide them for me "just in case" (I haven’t asked for them >back, and it’s time I let him just throw them out), and now look at my >meter! >spouse, lots of water, angry workouts at the Y where smoking is not >allowed, angry reading sessions at the library where smoking is not >allowed, aromatherapy oils, crying, yelling, breaking it down into >hours or minutes when needed, loving the occasional surges of pride >and joy at my accomplishment, and probably most of all, reading as3 >every chance I get – being with the struggles and the encouragement of >everyone posting here, and knowing I’m part of the same struggle and >part of this amazingly healthy community.  THANK YOU. >My online time is very limited, and I hope to participate with more >posting and less lurking, but I don’t know – I need to use the time to >catch up with all the messages!  But either way, I really appreciate >this place and you people who are working so hard to quit or stay quit >and still have time to support all the rest of us. >Keep me in mind please – after 3 weeks without a puff, I’ve lasted far >longer than ever before and feel buoyant and positive, but I also feel >like this quit is still fragile… think about smoking a LOT and am >scared sometimes.  Best wishes to all of you, and thanks, >janet >Three weeks, 12 hours, 25 minutes and 46 seconds. 129 cigarettes not >smoked (or which I’d have enjoyed about 40), saving $22.59. Life >saved: 10 hours, 45 minutes.

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Oh I love it when a lurker comes out to say hello. Welcome to AS3 Janet, pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable :) ) WWW is WWWonderful WWWTG GIRL!   _o/          __|       /        |__             o     *o/*    |     __o     o     |       o/       o/_     /|      |   / )   /) |      (   /o     / )      /  <(    / |     /  padders is doing cartwheels and shaking her pompoms for ya! hugs padders plodding on (

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Well Netscape crashed just as I sent that last message so I don’t know if it was posted and I have to leave for work.  I know someone who needs a cheer bouquet, Kitty!  Now I am not sure she is a member of AI but we could still send her a bouquet from ASA. Just a thought.  Dee Tee knows where to send it. Sorry if this is a repeat. — MZ — My website: http://members.home.net/mzuschlag/

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A basket full of fruit, nuts, popcorn,  aromatherapy lotions and other odds and ends is on it’s way to Kitty. The card reads: To the Queen of the Universe Love, All your friends at Arthritis Insight and ASA We miss you Kitty! ~KJ Akron, Ohio http://arthritisinsight.com Knowledge is power…support is essential. My daughter, Student Ambassador: http://members.aol.com/krissyjo/ambassador.html See my pond: http://members.aol.com/KrissyJo/ponds.html

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That was perfect. Duckie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > A basket full of fruit, nuts, popcorn,  aromatherapy lotions and other odds and > ends is on it’s way to Kitty. > The card reads: > To the Queen of the Universe > Love, > All your friends at Arthritis Insight and ASA > We miss you Kitty!

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I love the card. >A basket full of fruit, nuts, popcorn,  aromatherapy lotions and other odds >and >ends is on it’s way to Kitty. >The card reads: >To the Queen of the Universe >Love, >All your friends at Arthritis Insight and ASA >We miss you Kitty!

Sarah L "Friends are those people who know the words to the song in your heart and sing them back to you when you have forgotten the words."  (unattributed)

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Oh that sounds just wonderful KJ!!! Thanks so much for taking care of that on behalf of us all!!! Donna G

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Well I will use some different terminology.  That was really boss! Anyone from the east coast remember that one?  I am sure Kitty will appreciate it, sounds like she could use some cheer.  thanks KJ and Dee Tee! — MZ >To the Queen of the Universe >Love, >All your friends at Arthritis Insight and ASA >We miss you Kitty! > Splendid!!  I know she will get a kick out of it. > Char > "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. >  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

– My website: http://members.home.net/mzuschlag/

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>To the Queen of the Universe >Love, >All your friends at Arthritis Insight and ASA >We miss you Kitty!

Splendid!!  I know she will get a kick out of it. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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What a cool thing to do, or I should say "sweet".  If I say something is cool, my son informs me that no one says that any more, the in word is sweet.  Tery

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> What a cool thing to do, or I should say "sweet".  If I say something is cool, > my son informs me that no one says that any more, the in word is sweet.  Tery

Well, I think it’s very, very cool.  Sweet, too.  Thanks, KJ. — Di "When one tugs at a single thing in nature, he finds it attached to the rest of the world"  John Muir Diane_Abell at msn dot com http://loveyourmother.homestead.com

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Time magazine reports a big disappointment with the Rx approach to solving depression. When you step back and look at the big picture, it is VERY CLEAR that it is plain old too much toxic stuff and not enough good stuff in the body that causes depression. I know this for a fact.      JAGUAR — http://homestead.deja.com/user.jaguarcats/DETOXIFICATION.html

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How is prozac toxic?

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It’s difficult to know how to respond to statements such as "it is plain old too much toxic stuff and not enough good stuff in the body that causes depression." Such a statement of sheer arrogance coupled with idiocy is in and of itself deserving of ridicule. But to tag it with "I know this for a fact" is like saying "I know angels exist." You are basing your statements on your own experience and opinions, not on anything remotely resembling science or even reason. If you insist on dancing around like a fucking hippie-assed twelve year old girl, twirling your skirt and throwing pixie dust on everyone while you spew forth your unconditional religious fervor for your unproven, highly questionable alternative medical beliefs, please, at least have the courtesy to appear as though you are attempting to engage in serious, thought provoking discussion. Give us a reason to listen to you other than to be entertained, the way a one is entertained by an annoying, attention-starved younger sibling. > Time magazine reports a big disappointment with the Rx approach to > solving depression. When you step back and look at the big picture, it > is VERY CLEAR that it is plain old too much toxic stuff and not enough > good stuff in the body that causes depression. I know this for a fact. >      JAGUAR > — > http://homestead.deja.com/user.jaguarcats/DETOXIFICATION.html > http://www.d

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> Any antidepressant is used to alleviate the symptoms of depression. > Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.  By taking > antidepressants you are trying to rebalance the chemicals of the brain so > that you can improve your mood and therefore use other methods to regain the > balance.  Exercise, nutrition and treatment of any physical illness which > contributes to the cause of depression and counselling all help in the > treatment of depression. > Veronica Fletcher > Hobart, Tasmania, Australia > Veronica’s Essential Oils and Aromatherapy > at http://www.geocities.com/auntieronkie/veronica

Not a completely crazy site.  A commendable lack of  ridiculous claims. Wish there were more like this. arf

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Veronica Thank you for an informed and balanced viewpoint, not common around here :>). regards Alarca

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Any antidepressant is used to alleviate the symptoms of depression. > Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.  By taking > antidepressants you are trying to rebalance the chemicals of the brain so > that you can improve your mood and therefore use other methods to regain the > balance.  Exercise, nutrition and treatment of any physical illness which > contributes to the cause of depression and counselling all help in the > treatment of depression. > — > Veronica Fletcher > Hobart, Tasmania, Australia > Veronica’s Essential Oils and Aromatherapy > at http://www.geocities.com/auntieronkie/veronica

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IT WORKS BETTER THAN PLACEBO, JUST AS WELL TODAY AS IT DID BEFORE. IT IS NOT THE ANSWER TO EVERYONES PROBLEMS, BUT IT DOES WORK.

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> IT WORKS BETTER THAN PLACEBO, JUST AS WELL TODAY AS IT DID BEFORE. IT IS NOT > THE ANSWER TO EVERYONES PROBLEMS, BUT IT DOES WORK.

     JAGUAR: I still say it doesn not get to the ROOT of the depression problem, which is toxicity. For instance, a lot of depressed people smoke, which is in itself making depression a lot worse. You can’t just take Prozac and make no other adjustments to your lifestyle, or you’ll never really pull out of the depression. Prozac should be a temporary measure! Not a lifetime drug!

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Any antidepressant is used to alleviate the symptoms of depression. Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.  By taking antidepressants you are trying to rebalance the chemicals of the brain so that you can improve your mood and therefore use other methods to regain the balance.  Exercise, nutrition and treatment of any physical illness which contributes to the cause of depression and counselling all help in the treatment of depression. — Veronica Fletcher Hobart, Tasmania, Australia Veronica’s Essential Oils and Aromatherapy at http://www.geocities.com/auntieronkie/veronica

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> IT WORKS BETTER THAN PLACEBO, JUST AS WELL TODAY AS IT DID BEFORE. IT > IS NOT > THE ANSWER TO EVERYONES PROBLEMS, BUT IT DOES WORK. >      JAGUAR: I still say it doesn not get to the ROOT of the depression > problem, which is toxicity. For instance, a lot of depressed people > smoke, which is in itself making depression a lot worse. You can’t just > take Prozac and make no other adjustments to your lifestyle, or you’ll > never really pull out of the depression. Prozac should be a temporary > measure! Not a lifetime drug!

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Guy, I knew that someone who drank more of this stuff than I would know how to correctly spell it :")) Once was DAMN sure enough for me!! Ken – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Greek whiskey. UZO. When I first got out of the service (many moons ago) >I made a fool of myself with ample UZO. Goes down smooth, comes >up…. well.. we won’t go there. ;"( >Ken Williams > Ken > Wow, there’s a forgotten name  from my misspent  youth–it’s been > years since I had even thought of Ouzo! > Guy Anderson > Ripley, TN

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>Anise oil.

started using it back in the 1970’s, mixing it will vanilla extract.  It was the main ingredient in most of the early scents. Smells like licorice. Ronnie http://fishing.about.com

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Hi Jeff I had seen the artickle in the Fishing and Hunting Libraly over a decade that anise oil covers up the human scent. Hiromi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. > I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human > scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one > use it? > Thanks, > Jeff

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>Greek whiskey. UZO. When I first got out of the service (many moons ago) >I made a fool of myself with ample UZO. Goes down smooth, comes >up…. well.. we won’t go there. ;"( >Ken Williams

Ken Wow, there’s a forgotten name  from my misspent  youth–it’s been years since I had even thought of Ouzo! Guy Anderson Ripley, TN

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>aromatherapy magazine while sitting down

  This is by far the best description for taking a crap that I’ve ever heard!! LOL   Still Strippin’ Line in Pa,   George

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        My uncle Bud used to doctor two identical tubs of catfish cheese or blood bait with anise and set them aside. Then a week later he’d put one tub into a coffee can  that was perforated, wire the lid shut and tie on a brick.         He’d throw this into his favorite honey hole at the lake, wait a few days, and then go fishing with the other doctored tub. He’d be the only one pulling cats out of that hole, as they were used to the scent and taste of the doctored bait.         B3– Robert E. Longshore

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I used it in salt water many years ago and it seemed to help.  The attractant I use now has some anise oil in it and I feel it is as effective as any other. I’m not a big fan of the attractants but do use one for flippling. Lamar Middleton Winter Haven, FL http://www.LMbassguideFL.com >I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. >I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human >scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one >use it? >Thanks, >Jeff

Lamar Middleton Winter Haven, FL http://www.LMbassguideFL.com

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>I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. >I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human >scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one >use it?

Yes.  Some of the very first scented soft plastics and scent sprays were anise.  It is smells and tastes exactly like licorice candy. I have not used it. There’s also an anise flavored liqueur–not one of my favorites  :-[ Guy Anderson Ripley, TN

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Greek whiskey. UZO. When I first got out of the service (many moons ago) I made a fool of myself with ample UZO. Goes down smooth, comes up…. well.. we won’t go there. ;"( Ken Williams – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. >I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human >scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one >use it? > Yes.  Some of the very first scented soft plastics and scent sprays > were anise.  It is smells and tastes exactly like licorice candy. I > have not used it. > There’s also an anise flavored liqueur–not one of my favorites  :-[ > Guy Anderson > Ripley, TN

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I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one use it? Thanks, Jeff

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> I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. > I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human > scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one > use it?

Sure, this has been used for years.  I personally don’t use it but I do know guys that swear by it.  I suppose that if the fish really are being stubborn, you could give it a try.  It couldn’t hurt if the fishing is slow anyway, maybe it could mean the difference between fishing and catching. —

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        It’s as old as spitting tobacco juice on the lure. Anise will work but a lot of bass are used to it. It’s like summer reruns on TV. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I reading a recent aromatherapy magazine while sitting down the other day. > I noticed an ad for Anise oil.  Supposedly this oil will take away human > scent and actually attract fish.  Has anyone heard of this?  Does any one > use it? > Thanks, > Jeff

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Dr. Mark (and everyone else who has posted) Thank you for your helpful suggestions and insights.  I think you’ve given me a couple new leads to explore with my gastroenterologist, and that’s certainly better than nothing.  Dr. Mark, what you described sounds closest to what I’m experiencing, right down to the dehydration (I usually need an IV during one of my episodes).  If anyone thinks of anything else, or if someone new reads this and has experienced something similar, I would greatly appreciate any and all input. If you don’t feel like posting in this public place, for whatever Thank you everyone, once again. Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon > Hi Simon, >      I haven’t gotten into a big research binge on this, but I have a > few thoughts off the top of my head (I’m assuming your doctor has > checked for gallbladder disease, intestinal obstruction, etc.): > 1)  This could be something called "cyclic vomiting syndrome".  This > is a variant of migraine, and it can exist in the absence of any > headache-type symptoms.  It typically happens in the time frame you > describe, monthly, every six weeks, etc., and the sufferer just pukes > like no tomorrow for hours…then it’s over.  They can vomit so much > that they get dehydrated and get in further trouble from that. > 2)  There’s another migraine variant called "abdominal migraine". > This one is typified more by abdominal *pain*, with or without > vomiting, but almost always including nausea.  From what I know, this > one can tend to occur more frequently (up to several times a week) and > may be associated with a migraine-like aura — a weird sensory > experience (a smell, glittering lights) that precedes the episode. > It might be helpful if you talk with your doctor about any past or > family history of migraine headaches.  I’m not sure how to make a > definitive diagnosis..it might involve an EEG during the episode. > I hope this helps. > Dr. Mark

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> What causes "intracranial pressure"?   Could it have gone away by itself? > I also wonder if it had something to do with her TS?   I’d appreciate any > further comments. > Thanks…. > Cher

Cher, Intracranial pressure (IP) depends on a variety of factors. Increased IP is not a disease per se, but rather a pathologic mechanism. I’m afraid, the list will be too extensive for posting, let alone each condition would require separate explanation. I will try to simplify things a bit. If I oversimplify, I hope somebody would correct me. Abnormal circulation of liquor (aka cerebrospinal fluid) is probably the most important cause for increased IP. It can be affected by pathology of meninges, like sequelae of bacterial meningitis, trauma, tumor, congenital pathology etc. Obstruction to venous blood flow can also cause increased IP. Increase in general blood pressure (AD) will also affect brain circulation. I am not aware of a direct connection betwen TS and increased IP, but you could check there were any attempts to discontinue prescribed medication. Sometimes too rapid a drop in intake of certain medicines may result in a variety of symptoms, including increased AD (with all the consequences, like headache and vomitting). Usually it happens when a patient desides that he does not need medication any more (for whatever reason). Children are sometimes very uncomfortable taking medications on a regular basis and can try to discontinue whatever medication is prescribed. In any case it will be useful to check the medication list with your doctor. Standard tests should be helpful in defining the presence and cause of increased IP. Eye exam will be helpful in determining status of cranial bloodflow. X-ray may show the indirect signs of increased IP. If necessary, computer tomography can be preformed (tumor, enlargement of ventricles, status of meninges etc.). Other tests can be performed as well. Ilia

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon

Hi Simon,      I haven’t gotten into a big research binge on this, but I have a few thoughts off the top of my head (I’m assuming your doctor has checked for gallbladder disease, intestinal obstruction, etc.): 1)  This could be something called "cyclic vomiting syndrome".  This is a variant of migraine, and it can exist in the absence of any headache-type symptoms.  It typically happens in the time frame you describe, monthly, every six weeks, etc., and the sufferer just pukes like no tomorrow for hours…then it’s over.  They can vomit so much that they get dehydrated and get in further trouble from that. 2)  There’s another migraine variant called "abdominal migraine". This one is typified more by abdominal *pain*, with or without vomiting, but almost always including nausea.  From what I know, this one can tend to occur more frequently (up to several times a week) and may be associated with a migraine-like aura — a weird sensory experience (a smell, glittering lights) that precedes the episode. It might be helpful if you talk with your doctor about any past or family history of migraine headaches.  I’m not sure how to make a definitive diagnosis..it might involve an EEG during the episode. I hope this helps. Dr. Mark

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>Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  

  How soon after eating? >It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months.

  Food allergy?  Or you occasionally get some food contaminated with Staph aureus enterotoxin?   KEEP A DETAILED  FOOD DIARY until you have had several of these episodes, and analyse what and where (and with whom) you ate. You might be able to pin it down to a seldom-encountered ingredient.   Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

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>Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and >again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get >comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays >down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, >with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole >ordeal.

  There is a scarce variety of migraine that has more GI symptoms than headache pain, and if you are vomiting this much.  Ask the doctors to give you a trial dose of Imitrix (pre-loaded injectable migraine med you just whap on your thigh to inject) and take it when the episode starts and see if it has any effect.   But keep the food diary … food-related migraines are common. Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon

As Jeff mentioned "parasitic" infection – maybe you should check that you do not have anything to that effect. (Did you have a stool sample checked??) It could be an intolerance to food that you are ingesting. The sympathetic nervous system will go into overdrive and "expel" anything it considers bad out of the body, either by vomiting or evacuation of the bowels. Keep up the good work and I hope you get well soon. Cheers! Tracy :)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > > ordeal. > > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > > doctor who knows what this might be. > > Simon > Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very > rapidly > and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have > diarrhea or any abdominal pain? >     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you > describe. > Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except > it > would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly > ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too > would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of > between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt > even > worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel > better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and > perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it. >    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was > having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what > she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could > possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do > exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned > those > pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at > what > exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after > that! > LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she > became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite > awhile…probably > over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. > Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. > Cher > Cher, > It would be probably a good idea to see a neurologist as the symptoms you > are describing can well be due to increased intracranial pressure. > Ilia

Thanks for the advise… After responding to this post, I kept wondering how long it’d really been since she had experienced one of those "nights"…so when she came in tonight I asked her.  She said it’s been at least two years, maybe a bit longer…so I was "off" a good bit. She was actually seeing a pediatric neurologist every six months during this time..(Tourett Syndrome) and it seems as if we’d mentioned it to her (the neurologist)…but maybe not.   I know for sure that I asked our family doctor about it on several occasions and he never seemed very concerned or even curious….. What causes "intracranial pressure"?   Could it have gone away by itself? I also wonder if it had something to do with her TS?   I’d appreciate any further comments. Thanks…. Cher

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Simon > Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very rapidly > and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have > diarrhea or any abdominal pain? >     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you > describe. > Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except it > would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly > ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too > would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of > between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt even > worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel > better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and > perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it. >    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was > having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what > she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could > possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do > exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned those > pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at what > exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after that! > LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she > became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite awhile…probably > over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. > Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. > Cher

Cher, It would be probably a good idea to see a neurologist as the symptoms you are describing can well be due to increased intracranial pressure. Ilia

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Simon

Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very rapidly and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have diarrhea or any abdominal pain?     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you describe. Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except it would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt even worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it.    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned those pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at what exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after that! LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite awhile…probably over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. Cher

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Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole ordeal. It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the doctors have no idea what is wrong. I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a doctor who knows what this might be. Thanks, Simon

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Dr. Mark (and everyone else who has posted) Thank you for your helpful suggestions and insights.  I think you’ve given me a couple new leads to explore with my gastroenterologist, and that’s certainly better than nothing.  Dr. Mark, what you described sounds closest to what I’m experiencing, right down to the dehydration (I usually need an IV during one of my episodes).  If anyone thinks of anything else, or if someone new reads this and has experienced something similar, I would greatly appreciate any and all input. If you don’t feel like posting in this public place, for whatever Thank you everyone, once again. Simon – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon > Hi Simon, >      I haven’t gotten into a big research binge on this, but I have a > few thoughts off the top of my head (I’m assuming your doctor has > checked for gallbladder disease, intestinal obstruction, etc.): > 1)  This could be something called "cyclic vomiting syndrome".  This > is a variant of migraine, and it can exist in the absence of any > headache-type symptoms.  It typically happens in the time frame you > describe, monthly, every six weeks, etc., and the sufferer just pukes > like no tomorrow for hours…then it’s over.  They can vomit so much > that they get dehydrated and get in further trouble from that. > 2)  There’s another migraine variant called "abdominal migraine". > This one is typified more by abdominal *pain*, with or without > vomiting, but almost always including nausea.  From what I know, this > one can tend to occur more frequently (up to several times a week) and > may be associated with a migraine-like aura — a weird sensory > experience (a smell, glittering lights) that precedes the episode. > It might be helpful if you talk with your doctor about any past or > family history of migraine headaches.  I’m not sure how to make a > definitive diagnosis..it might involve an EEG during the episode. > I hope this helps. > Dr. Mark

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> What causes "intracranial pressure"?   Could it have gone away by itself? > I also wonder if it had something to do with her TS?   I’d appreciate any > further comments. > Thanks…. > Cher

Cher, Intracranial pressure (IP) depends on a variety of factors. Increased IP is not a disease per se, but rather a pathologic mechanism. I’m afraid, the list will be too extensive for posting, let alone each condition would require separate explanation. I will try to simplify things a bit. If I oversimplify, I hope somebody would correct me. Abnormal circulation of liquor (aka cerebrospinal fluid) is probably the most important cause for increased IP. It can be affected by pathology of meninges, like sequelae of bacterial meningitis, trauma, tumor, congenital pathology etc. Obstruction to venous blood flow can also cause increased IP. Increase in general blood pressure (AD) will also affect brain circulation. I am not aware of a direct connection betwen TS and increased IP, but you could check there were any attempts to discontinue prescribed medication. Sometimes too rapid a drop in intake of certain medicines may result in a variety of symptoms, including increased AD (with all the consequences, like headache and vomitting). Usually it happens when a patient desides that he does not need medication any more (for whatever reason). Children are sometimes very uncomfortable taking medications on a regular basis and can try to discontinue whatever medication is prescribed. In any case it will be useful to check the medication list with your doctor. Standard tests should be helpful in defining the presence and cause of increased IP. Eye exam will be helpful in determining status of cranial bloodflow. X-ray may show the indirect signs of increased IP. If necessary, computer tomography can be preformed (tumor, enlargement of ventricles, status of meninges etc.). Other tests can be performed as well. Ilia

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon

Hi Simon,      I haven’t gotten into a big research binge on this, but I have a few thoughts off the top of my head (I’m assuming your doctor has checked for gallbladder disease, intestinal obstruction, etc.): 1)  This could be something called "cyclic vomiting syndrome".  This is a variant of migraine, and it can exist in the absence of any headache-type symptoms.  It typically happens in the time frame you describe, monthly, every six weeks, etc., and the sufferer just pukes like no tomorrow for hours…then it’s over.  They can vomit so much that they get dehydrated and get in further trouble from that. 2)  There’s another migraine variant called "abdominal migraine". This one is typified more by abdominal *pain*, with or without vomiting, but almost always including nausea.  From what I know, this one can tend to occur more frequently (up to several times a week) and may be associated with a migraine-like aura — a weird sensory experience (a smell, glittering lights) that precedes the episode. It might be helpful if you talk with your doctor about any past or family history of migraine headaches.  I’m not sure how to make a definitive diagnosis..it might involve an EEG during the episode. I hope this helps. Dr. Mark

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>Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  

  How soon after eating? >It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months.

  Food allergy?  Or you occasionally get some food contaminated with Staph aureus enterotoxin?   KEEP A DETAILED  FOOD DIARY until you have had several of these episodes, and analyse what and where (and with whom) you ate. You might be able to pin it down to a seldom-encountered ingredient.   Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

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>Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and >again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get >comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays >down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, >with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole >ordeal.

  There is a scarce variety of migraine that has more GI symptoms than headache pain, and if you are vomiting this much.  Ask the doctors to give you a trial dose of Imitrix (pre-loaded injectable migraine med you just whap on your thigh to inject) and take it when the episode starts and see if it has any effect.   But keep the food diary … food-related migraines are common. Tsu Dho Nimh A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Thanks, > Simon

As Jeff mentioned "parasitic" infection – maybe you should check that you do not have anything to that effect. (Did you have a stool sample checked??) It could be an intolerance to food that you are ingesting. The sympathetic nervous system will go into overdrive and "expel" anything it considers bad out of the body, either by vomiting or evacuation of the bowels. Keep up the good work and I hope you get well soon. Cheers! Tracy :)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > > ordeal. > > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > > doctor who knows what this might be. > > Simon > Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very > rapidly > and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have > diarrhea or any abdominal pain? >     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you > describe. > Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except > it > would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly > ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too > would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of > between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt > even > worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel > better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and > perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it. >    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was > having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what > she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could > possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do > exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned > those > pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at > what > exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after > that! > LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she > became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite > awhile…probably > over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. > Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. > Cher > Cher, > It would be probably a good idea to see a neurologist as the symptoms you > are describing can well be due to increased intracranial pressure. > Ilia

Thanks for the advise… After responding to this post, I kept wondering how long it’d really been since she had experienced one of those "nights"…so when she came in tonight I asked her.  She said it’s been at least two years, maybe a bit longer…so I was "off" a good bit. She was actually seeing a pediatric neurologist every six months during this time..(Tourett Syndrome) and it seems as if we’d mentioned it to her (the neurologist)…but maybe not.   I know for sure that I asked our family doctor about it on several occasions and he never seemed very concerned or even curious….. What causes "intracranial pressure"?   Could it have gone away by itself? I also wonder if it had something to do with her TS?   I’d appreciate any further comments. Thanks…. Cher

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Simon > Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very rapidly > and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have > diarrhea or any abdominal pain? >     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you > describe. > Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except it > would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly > ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too > would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of > between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt even > worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel > better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and > perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it. >    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was > having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what > she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could > possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do > exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned those > pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at what > exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after that! > LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she > became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite awhile…probably > over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. > Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. > Cher

Cher, It would be probably a good idea to see a neurologist as the symptoms you are describing can well be due to increased intracranial pressure. Ilia

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and > again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get > comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays > down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, > with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole > ordeal. > It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. > I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, > ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other > tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the > doctors have no idea what is wrong. > I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, > knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a > doctor who knows what this might be. > Simon

Do you have headaches prior to becoming sick?   Does it come on very rapidly and go away just as quickly?  Or does it come and go slowly?   Do you have diarrhea or any abdominal pain?     My daughter use to experience something sort of similar to what you describe. Her episodes would occur maybe once a month or once every 6 weeks, except it would always happen in the middle of the night.  She’d become deathly ill, vomiting over and over again until only bile would be left.   She too would sweat alot, her color would be extremely sick looking…sort of between a pale and a green…(seriously).  She looked horrible and felt even worse.  This would keep her up for hours until she would eventually feel better and go back to sleep.   In the morning she would be perky, and perfectly fine….neither of us could ever figure out what caused it.    For a long time we thought it was something she was eating that she was having a reaction to.   But we never did find any connection between what she was eating and what was happening to her.   Then I thought it could possibly be something to do with parasites….Yucky thought, but they do exist and can get out of control.  So we did a good cleanse.  Cleaned those pesky little critters right out of her, she was horrified, as was I at what exited her body.  Made the entire family go through the cleanse after that! LOL…  Anyway…we thought that had helped…but then sure enough she became sick again…She hasn’t had a reoccurrence in quite awhile…probably over a year…and I honestly don’t know what to attribute that to. Sorry I couldn’t be of more help….. Cher

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Symptoms: After eating, I vomit.  And then again, and again, and again, until it’s just bile coming up.  I can’t sleep, and I can’t get comfortable.  I sweat a lot, and I get dehydrated.  Nothing stays down, not even pills.  The fits of vomiting usually last 8-12 hours, with me vomiting maybe once every 30-60 minutes during the whole ordeal. It seems to happen to me randomly, maybe once every two months. I’ve seen a bunch of doctors, who have done blood tests, x-rays, ultrasounds, endoscopies, biopsies of stomach tissue, and a few other tests, all of which have come back "normal".  In other words, the doctors have no idea what is wrong. I’m wondering if anyone out there has experienced anything like this, knows anyone who has experienced something like this, or is perhaps a doctor who knows what this might be. Thanks, Simon

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There are lots of Edgar Cayces around today — they’re called "psychics", "palm readers", & "fortune tellers".  Makes me want to go into a so-called trance (funny how so many of these cranks enter that state at the drop of a hat, huh?), make some general pronunciations ("You must eat only green vegetables when the moon is full" — no sillier than the rubbish that Cayce spouted), then sit back & wait for the accolades (& $$$) from believers who proclaim that I’m some sort of "enlightened practitioner" (another name for a person who doesn’t have a clue about what they’re doing, but doesn’t let One of my students was using one of Cayce’s oils last night in class. Whatever it’s so-called benefits are, it made the whole room smell like the PA turnpike restrooms after the cleaning crew was finished with it!  I fail to see the therapeutic benefits of assaulting client & massage therapist with the stench of Pine Sol.  Most of the Cayce massage oils have such a strong odor they are sickening, certainly not the purpose of aromatherapy or massage. Loved the inulin/insulin story — I hope diabetic Cayce believers didn’t follow *that* tidbit of nonsense. Michele – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Mark, > Do you have a reference for the inulin/insulin story – this would be a great > gag that i could use sometime when teaching. > oh yeah….what is inulin anyway? > Thanks in advance, > Andrew Austin. > Southampton, England. > >Having overcome multiple sclerosis using an alternative treatment > >suggested by the late Edgar Cayce (a man widely regarded as the father > >of modern holistic medicine), I have created 49 public forums which > >discuss Cayce’s approach to treating everything from acne to vitiligo. > >You can see them listed in the Clubs section of my Yahoo! profile at > Oh?  Who (other than you) considers Cayce "the father > of modern holistic medicine"?  Most of his prescriptions > were run-of-the-mill for quackery of the day, which would > have been known to his osteopath freind Laney, who conducted > the Cayce "readings".  Some of his prescriptions were just > plain stupid, like eating Jerusalem artichokes for diabetes. > In a reading, Cayce said they contain "insulin".  The entity > Cayce was channeling must have had a reading comprehension > problem, because there’s no "insulin" in Jerusalem artichokes, > but a significant amount of "inulin". > Does your web site also discuss Cayce’s predictions concerning > certain geological events that were supposed to occur in the > 1960’s and 1970’s?  Such as the western part of North America > being submerged under the Pacific Ocean?  Northern Europe > disappearing "in the twinkling of an eye".  Atlantis rising > from the ocean?  I’m still waiting….. > In fact, Cayce predicted his own reincarnation, around the > turn of the century (i.e. about now).  He would be reincarnated > in a town along the Pacific coast…. of Nebraska! > For more information, I recommend reading EDGAR CAYCE ON ATLANTIS, > written by his son Hugh Lynn Cayce.  I wonder what that guy does > for a living these days?  Does the A.R.E. receive enough donations > to support him?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi! > Having overcome multiple sclerosis using an alternative treatment > suggested by the late Edgar Cayce (a man widely regarded as the father > of modern holistic medicine), I have created 49 public forums which > discuss Cayce’s approach to treating everything from acne to vitiligo. > You can see them listed in the Clubs section of my Yahoo! profile at > http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany > Click on any club or clubs that correspond to your particular needs and > interests. > Check it out!

Good on you Dudley.  Edgar Cayce was a very interesting person and its a shame more people don’t know about who he was. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Very sincerely, > Dudley Delany, R.N., M.A., D.C.

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Mark, Do you have a reference for the inulin/insulin story – this would be a great gag that i could use sometime when teaching. oh yeah….what is inulin anyway? Thanks in advance, Andrew Austin. Southampton, England.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Having overcome multiple sclerosis using an alternative treatment >suggested by the late Edgar Cayce (a man widely regarded as the father >of modern holistic medicine), I have created 49 public forums which >discuss Cayce’s approach to treating everything from acne to vitiligo. >You can see them listed in the Clubs section of my Yahoo! profile at > Oh?  Who (other than you) considers Cayce "the father > of modern holistic medicine"?  Most of his prescriptions > were run-of-the-mill for quackery of the day, which would > have been known to his osteopath freind Laney, who conducted > the Cayce "readings".  Some of his prescriptions were just > plain stupid, like eating Jerusalem artichokes for diabetes. > In a reading, Cayce said they contain "insulin".  The entity > Cayce was channeling must have had a reading comprehension > problem, because there’s no "insulin" in Jerusalem artichokes, > but a significant amount of "inulin". > Does your web site also discuss Cayce’s predictions concerning > certain geological events that were supposed to occur in the > 1960’s and 1970’s?  Such as the western part of North America > being submerged under the Pacific Ocean?  Northern Europe > disappearing "in the twinkling of an eye".  Atlantis rising > from the ocean?  I’m still waiting….. > In fact, Cayce predicted his own reincarnation, around the > turn of the century (i.e. about now).  He would be reincarnated > in a town along the Pacific coast…. of Nebraska! > For more information, I recommend reading EDGAR CAYCE ON ATLANTIS, > written by his son Hugh Lynn Cayce.  I wonder what that guy does > for a living these days?  Does the A.R.E. receive enough donations > to support him?

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Hi! Having overcome multiple sclerosis using an alternative treatment suggested by the late Edgar Cayce (a man widely regarded as the father of modern holistic medicine), I have created 49 public forums which discuss Cayce’s approach to treating everything from acne to vitiligo. You can see them listed in the Clubs section of my Yahoo! profile at http://profiles.yahoo.com/dudley_delany Click on any club or clubs that correspond to your particular needs and interests. Check it out! Very sincerely, Dudley Delany, R.N., M.A., D.C.

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>Having overcome multiple sclerosis using an alternative treatment >suggested by the late Edgar Cayce (a man widely regarded as the father >of modern holistic medicine), I have created 49 public forums which >discuss Cayce’s approach to treating everything from acne to vitiligo. >You can see them listed in the Clubs section of my Yahoo! profile at

Oh?  Who (other than you) considers Cayce "the father of modern holistic medicine"?  Most of his prescriptions were run-of-the-mill for quackery of the day, which would have been known to his osteopath freind Laney, who conducted the Cayce "readings".  Some of his prescriptions were just plain stupid, like eating Jerusalem artichokes for diabetes. In a reading, Cayce said they contain "insulin".  The entity Cayce was channeling must have had a reading comprehension problem, because there’s no "insulin" in Jerusalem artichokes, but a significant amount of "inulin". Does your web site also discuss Cayce’s predictions concerning certain geological events that were supposed to occur in the 1960’s and 1970’s?  Such as the western part of North America being submerged under the Pacific Ocean?  Northern Europe disappearing "in the twinkling of an eye".  Atlantis rising from the ocean?  I’m still waiting….. In fact, Cayce predicted his own reincarnation, around the turn of the century (i.e. about now).  He would be reincarnated in a town along the Pacific coast…. of Nebraska! For more information, I recommend reading EDGAR CAYCE ON ATLANTIS, written by his son Hugh Lynn Cayce.  I wonder what that guy does for a living these days?  Does the A.R.E. receive enough donations to support him?

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All hail Queen Ari!!!! Pass the soap…. Lane  f3as3 — 2m  3w 5d 8:23 Smoke-Free. 3,500 cigarettes NOT smoked. $700.00 Money saved. 1w 5d 3:40 Life saved.. Read my "Diary of a Quitter" at http://www.bluethunder.org/quitterhome.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Ah, Princess Ari!  Invite us into your palace. One day, 21 hours, 42 minutes and 1 second. 47 cigarettes not smoked, saving $4.76. Life saved: 3 hours, 55 minutes — Flower Power, CC Shuett

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Hi TrueLotus! Great progress! I love the throne room idea! Make sure you get yourself some kewl incense burners. Heat oils to anoint yourself (until your Radiance attracts the faithful to properly attend you). It’s always good to write notes, thoughts, decrees and the like, and the secret to good writing is of course very good paper … handmade parchment books or scrolls if you can swing it. And the one thing that would be handy for *both* intended uses of your throne room would be some good light reading! I’m going to follow your lead and clean up my grimy apartment, wash the smoke scum off of the windows and burn some sage. Have a great, clean weekend TL! -batch One week, one day, 16h, 53m, 56s. 174 cigs NOT smoked = $34.81. Life expectancy increased by 14 hours, 30 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —— Original Message —– Newsgroups: alt.support.stop-smoking Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:41 AM > Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no > real cravings. > What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in > the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to > put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put > in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business > or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to > light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of > like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as > long as I don’t smoke!). > A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the > ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. > Yahoo!! > Ari > Ari’s Adventure Travel > Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal > http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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>Great progress! I love the throne room idea! Make sure you get yourself some >kewl >incense burners. Heat oils to anoint yourself (until your Radiance attracts >the >faithful to properly attend you). It’s always good to write notes, thoughts, >decrees and the like, and the secret to good writing is of course very good >paper >… handmade parchment books or scrolls if you can swing it. And the one >thing >that would be handy for *both* intended uses of your throne room would be >some >good light reading!

You’ve got it right on the money. I’m putting all types of facial creams, lotions, aromatherapy, etc. It might even leak into the "main" room adjacent to the "throne". >I’m going to follow your lead and clean up my grimy apartment, wash the smoke >scum off of the windows and burn some sage. Have a great, clean weekend TL!

Yes, I’m going to burn sage in my bathroom to get rid of the negative smoking energy. Right now my bathroom smells like lavendar, like the candle I burned. This is much more creative, positive and fun than just sucking in putrid smoke. Ari Ari’s Adventure Travel Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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Still think about that morning drag but have given in up for 5 days now and no real cravings. What I’m going to do is turn the small bathroom where I smoked (only place in the house my hubby would let me smoke) into a true throne room. I’m going to put in plush Egyptian towels, a toilet seat cover, clean out all the smoke, put in incense and candles and I’m either going to go in there to do my business or, if it would have been one of those times I was going to smoke, I’m going to light some insence or a candle and take 10 deep breaths of clean air. Kind of like a meditatioin room but with a toilet in it :^)  (HEY, I can be crazy as long as I don’t smoke!). A true throne. And I’m really looking forward to washing up all the ashes, the ashtray, cigarette butts and clean the mirror from that smoke scum. Yahoo!! Ari Ari’s Adventure Travel Spiritual journeys to Egypt and Nepal http://www.eskimo.com/~tlotus

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