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> Have heard that lobelia, coltsfoot, and thorn apple can all be used for > asthma- does anyone know about them, how safe they are, what amounts are > used, how they are prepared, which ones work the fastest or most > efficently?  This information is hard to find.  Thanks

Any botanicals used in smoke mixtures are cut and sifted herbs.  Simply mix the herbs together, and roll into ‘cigarrettes’ with cig wrapping papers you can get from any place that sells tobacco.  I personally would not reccommend smoking herbs directly this way, however, but burning them to let them fill the air.  The early Native Americans also used Mullein. Kathleen — http://www.cnw.com/~bygone/herbcat.html Herbal Pleasures & Treasures Nothing Could Be More Natural! Bulk Herbs & Spices & Accessories, Aromatherapy & Jewelry, Natural, Animal Cruelty-free Products for Home, Family, and Pets.

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> very good and accurate advise

Absolutely, especially about the thornapple (datura). It grows commonly in this country and its effects truly a re horrendous. Inhaling it can also be sublethal. It is truly a plant that was meant when the Ancient Roman (Virgil?) wrote. ‘Whom the gods would destroy, they first must make mad.’ A truly timely warning in the case of datura. >>Have heard that lobelia, coltsfoot, and thorn apple can all be used for >>asthma- does anyone know about them, how safe they are, what amounts are >>used, how they are prepared, which ones work the fastest or most >>efficently? >Lobelia is safe in small doses, which relax the lungs to prevent spasms. > Larger >doses cause vomiting. Coltsfoot is safe for short term use, though it has > the >same alkaloids found in fresh comfrey that can cause hepatitis. Thornapple > and >it’s relatives should not be fooled with. They contain atropine, > hyocyamine, >and scopalamine. They can easily kill you.

after druving you mad. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I would suggest schisandra berries, amla or another source of vitamin C and >bioflavonoids; especially quercetin, and a mixture of coleus forskohlii and >yerba mate’. >recommended dosage is 1/3 teaspoon of schisandra berry powder 3 times daily >before meals. Same for the amla, or 500mg of vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3 > to >4 times daily. I suggest using tinctures for the coleus forskohlii and > yerba >mate’ mixture in a1 part forskohlii and 1/2 part mate’ mixture. Recommended >dosage of the mixture is 20 to 30 drops 3 times daily on an empty stomach. > The >forskohlii will raise intracellular cAMP, the mate’ prevents the breakdown > of >cAMP. This will help prevent the attacks until the adrenal glands build > back up >to do this.

Just don’t try to smoke any of the above. The heat alone will damage your lungs.     pax    silverfern

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very good and accurate advise – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Have heard that lobelia, coltsfoot, and thorn apple can all be used for >asthma- does anyone know about them, how safe they are, what amounts are >used, how they are prepared, which ones work the fastest or most >efficently? >Lobelia is safe in small doses, which relax the lungs to prevent spasms. Larger >doses cause vomiting. Coltsfoot is safe for short term use, though it has the >same alkaloids found in fresh comfrey that can cause hepatitis. Thornapple and >it’s relatives should not be fooled with. They contain atropine, hyocyamine, >and scopalamine. They can easily kill you. >I would suggest schisandra berries, amla or another source of vitamin C and >bioflavonoids; especially quercetin, and a mixture of coleus forskohlii and >yerba mate’. >recommended dosage is 1/3 teaspoon of schisandra berry powder 3 times daily >before meals. Same for the amla, or 500mg of vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3 to >4 times daily. I suggest using tinctures for the coleus forskohlii and yerba >mate’ mixture in a1 part forskohlii and 1/2 part mate’ mixture. Recommended >dosage of the mixture is 20 to 30 drops 3 times daily on an empty stomach. The >forskohlii will raise intracellular cAMP, the mate’ prevents the breakdown of >cAMP. This will help prevent the attacks until the adrenal glands build back up >to do this.

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>Have heard that lobelia, coltsfoot, and thorn apple can all be used for >asthma- does anyone know about them, how safe they are, what amounts are >used, how they are prepared, which ones work the fastest or most >efficently?

Lobelia is safe in small doses, which relax the lungs to prevent spasms. Larger doses cause vomiting. Coltsfoot is safe for short term use, though it has the same alkaloids found in fresh comfrey that can cause hepatitis. Thornapple and it’s relatives should not be fooled with. They contain atropine, hyocyamine, and scopalamine. They can easily kill you. I would suggest schisandra berries, amla or another source of vitamin C and bioflavonoids; especially quercetin, and a mixture of coleus forskohlii and yerba mate’. recommended dosage is 1/3 teaspoon of schisandra berry powder 3 times daily before meals. Same for the amla, or 500mg of vitamin C with bioflavonoids 3 to 4 times daily. I suggest using tinctures for the coleus forskohlii and yerba mate’ mixture in a1 part forskohlii and 1/2 part mate’ mixture. Recommended dosage of the mixture is 20 to 30 drops 3 times daily on an empty stomach. The forskohlii will raise intracellular cAMP, the mate’ prevents the breakdown of cAMP. This will help prevent the attacks until the adrenal glands build back up to do this.  

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Have heard that lobelia, coltsfoot, and thorn apple can all be used for asthma- does anyone know about them, how safe they are, what amounts are used, how they are prepared, which ones work the fastest or most efficently?  This information is hard to find.  Thanks

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