Parkinson's Disease

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>Some "environmental" factor that are well known to cause Parkinson’s disease >and Parkinsonian symptoms are the drugs that act on the doperminergic >pathways, in particular drugs used in "treatment" (i use that term very >loosely of mental distresses, in particular the ‘neuroleptic drugs’ (such as

Well, to be precise, they don’t cause Parkinson’s DISEASE (which to the best of my knowledge is idiopathic degeneration of the substantia nigra), they cause Parkinsonism, which is a syndrome with the same symptoms as PD proper. Muhammed Ali, for instance, suffers from Parkinsonism, not PD. Michael J Fox, on the other hand, has early onset PD IIRC. /mattias

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Good point, thanks for the correction. >Regards >Andrew Austin. >– >NLP, Neurology, Schizophrenia: http://www.23NLPeople.com > >Some "environmental" factor that are well known to cause Parkinson’s >disease > >and Parkinsonian symptoms are the drugs that act on the doperminergic > >pathways, in particular drugs used in "treatment" (i use that term very > >loosely of mental distresses, in particular the ‘neuroleptic drugs’ (such >as > Well, to be precise, they don’t cause Parkinson’s DISEASE (which to > the best of my knowledge is idiopathic degeneration of the substantia > nigra), they cause Parkinsonism, which is a syndrome with the same > symptoms as PD proper. Muhammed Ali, for instance, suffers from > Parkinsonism, not PD. Michael J Fox, on the other hand, has early > onset PD IIRC. > /mattias

Other possible causes of Parkinsons. http://home.earthlink.net/~berniew1/wsn86CD.html http://ens.lycos.com/ens/jan2001/2001L-01-03-06.html http://www.geocities.com/toothk/media2.html http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/2888/list.html http://vibrancy.homestead.com/Mercury.html http://toxlaw.com/toxboard/topic2016/6.27.01.09.51.38.html http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/Lmercury.htm

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Good point, thanks for the correction. Regards Andrew Austin. — NLP, Neurology, Schizophrenia: http://www.23NLPeople.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Some "environmental" factor that are well known to cause Parkinson’s disease >and Parkinsonian symptoms are the drugs that act on the doperminergic >pathways, in particular drugs used in "treatment" (i use that term very >loosely of mental distresses, in particular the ‘neuroleptic drugs’ (such as > Well, to be precise, they don’t cause Parkinson’s DISEASE (which to > the best of my knowledge is idiopathic degeneration of the substantia > nigra), they cause Parkinsonism, which is a syndrome with the same > symptoms as PD proper. Muhammed Ali, for instance, suffers from > Parkinsonism, not PD. Michael J Fox, on the other hand, has early > onset PD IIRC. > /mattias

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Having been away I have missed some of the earlier posts in this thread. Whilst Parkinson’s disease is beleived to result from [an] "environmental factor[s]" one problem with this is that the expected geographical "clusters" of the disease fail to occur. This may be due to the delayed onset of symptoms from time of exposure and the migratory nature of people in this age. Some "environmental" factor that are well known to cause Parkinson’s disease and Parkinsonian symptoms are the drugs that act on the doperminergic pathways, in particular drugs used in "treatment" (i use that term very loosely of mental distresses, in particular the ‘neuroleptic drugs’ (such as chlorpromazine (thorazine), haloperidol (haldol) etc). I am aware of some references to the SSRI’s inducing a similar syndrome (after many years of use) and have seen patients with quite a severe Parkinson’s disease after a relatively short term administration of Stemetil (prochlorperizine) – a drug commonly used for nausea (it`s a standard post operative drug here in the UK) – this is a neuroleptic that was withdrawn from psychiatric prescription owing to it’s high incidence of TD/Parkinson’s induction, but is used in smaller doses, mostly given by naive nursing staff who have not never heard of iatrogenic Parkinson’s related disorders or TD. Another dopamine antagonist, Metoclopramide, which is believed to act on the vagus nerve, thus reducing nausea and promoting gastric emptying may also be implicated – i once saw a patient with a sudden onset of parkinsonian symptoms (rotational tremor of intention, "jaw wobbling", intermittant oculogyric crisis) one week after commencing daily metoclopramide – the only concominant medication was a daily 20 mg of prozac. One of the strangest thing i have seen is that whilst working in neurology, i was the only member of the nursing staff that was aware of TD and it`s relationship to neuroleptic drugs (TD didn`t exist prior to 1954 when chlorpromazine was introduced as the "miracle drug that emptied the asylums"). Another dopamine anagonist, but one that isn`t supposed to ross the blood-brain barrier is "domperidone" – a drug that i believe is sold OTC in some countries (not here in the UK). I somehow suspect that this isn`t quite true following a rather rapid induction of an ocular-gyric crisis after i took this drug whilst being treated for a typhoid infection. But them, maybe i ate some aluminium…..Hah! Regards, Andrew Austin. Alive in Southampton, UK. — NLP, Neurology, Schizophrenia: http://www.23NLPeople.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> >That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference >> >genetics and pesticides. >> Er…. Pesticides? >Er…. yes. Was my sentence not clear? > My hesitation was directed towards the contents, rather than the > semantics. I do know what pesticides are, but I did not know that > pesticides are known to cause PD. In fact, I still don’t think so, so > I would be very grateful if you could provide me with a reference. > /mattias

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>> >That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference > >genetics and pesticides. > Er…. Pesticides? >Er…. yes. Was my sentence not clear?

My hesitation was directed towards the contents, rather than the semantics. I do know what pesticides are, but I did not know that pesticides are known to cause PD. In fact, I still don’t think so, so I would be very grateful if you could provide me with a reference. /mattias

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> >That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference >genetics and pesticides. > Er…. Pesticides?

Er…. yes. Was my sentence not clear? — Known to annoy: http://www.watchingyou.com

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Do you have any insight at all? > I don’t have insight THAT far back, uncle Lou.

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> That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference > genetics and pesticides.

Pesticides–that too. http://www.whale.to/v/pesticides.html john

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>That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference >genetics and pesticides.

Er…. Pesticides? /mattias

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>The mechanism by which aluminum and mercury interact with the brain’s >substantia nigra is far beyond my scope as a healer. Let me state that >removal of these metals from one’s lifestytle will improve your quality >of life tremendously.

You said they cause Parkinson’s. How do you know? /mattias

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The mechanism by which aluminum and mercury interact with the brain’s substantia nigra is far beyond my scope as a healer. Let me state that removal of these metals from one’s lifestytle will improve your quality of life tremendously. http://community.webtv.net/KingJaguar/JaguarHealing

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I don’t have insight THAT far back, uncle Lou.

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> > > I do believe aluminum to be the primary culprit here, so use Pyrex > > cookware or stainless steel only. And don’t use antiperspirants. > So Parkinson’s didn’t exist prior to, say, 1920? > He/she didn’t say "all".

No, just "primary culprit". > I think aluminium has been around for some time > dear, after all the patent of first pesticide sprayer was in 1873.

I see. So Parkinson’s didn’t exist until 1873. > Another cause is mercury amalgam and cavitations

That’s funny, most scientific references to Parkinson’s reference genetics and pesticides. — Known to annoy: http://www.watchingyou.com

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I believe that as well! Toxic metals!

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>> So Parkinson’s didn’t exist prior to, say, 1920? >He/she didn’t say "all". I think aluminium has been around for some time >dear, after all the patent of first pesticide sprayer was in 1873. >Another cause is mercury amalgam and cavitations

Du you have a tentative mechanism by which aluminum and mercury cause selective degeneration of the substantia nigra? /mattias

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> I do believe aluminum to be the primary culprit here, so use Pyrex > cookware or stainless steel only. And don’t use antiperspirants.

So Parkinson’s didn’t exist prior to, say, 1920? — Known to annoy: http://www.watchingyou.com

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I get intuitive messages from above and then I relay them to you kind souls. Where would I be without my critics to keep me on my toes!

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Well, the whole physical REALM we’re in is unreal. It is a created reality. The secret to Jesus’ healing power is that he had an absolute KNOWING that we are in a dream. So that being said, all things become possible! Just like when we dream.

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> I do believe aluminum to be the primary culprit here, so use Pyrex > cookware or stainless steel only. And don’t use antiperspirants. > So Parkinson’s didn’t exist prior to, say, 1920?

He/she didn’t say "all". I think aluminium has been around for some time dear, after all the patent of first pesticide sprayer was in 1873. Another cause is mercury amalgam and cavitations john

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>I do believe aluminum to be the primary culprit here,

Oh right, is that so. Well thanks for telluing us. I take it to ,be ‘true’ then? The Gospel truth so to speak? >so use Pyrex >cookware or stainless steel only. And don’t use antiperspirants. Notice >how many celebrities are coming down with this disorder.

Funny you should say that. >These are >people who want dry underarms at all costs.

Of course!!!!! How come I never got the connection? It’s all so blatently obvious now – they all use metalic deodorant. Ding, Dong ! >Nonmetallic deodorant folks.

What if I don’t use a deodorant? This guy is unreal. Bob

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I do believe aluminum to be the primary culprit here, so use Pyrex cookware or stainless steel only. And don’t use antiperspirants. Notice how many celebrities are coming down with this disorder. These are people who want dry underarms at all costs. Nonmetallic deodorant folks. http://community.webtv.net/KingJaguar/JaguarHealing

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I’m trying to find others who have Parkinson’s and are working holistically with it. I believe that healing comes from within and that therefore external cures such as drugs, herbs, diet etc are only of limited use. For Parkinson’s this probably means working with the symptoms rather than constantly fighting or trying to get rid of them. Would love to hear from others with similar ideas, in particular about Parkinson’s. Seamus

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Tuohy) writes: >I’m trying to find others who have Parkinson’s and are working >holistically with it. >I believe that healing comes from within and that therefore external >cures such as drugs, herbs, diet etc are only of limited use. For >Parkinson’s this probably means working with the symptoms rather than >constantly fighting or trying to get rid of them.

I don’t agree with your belief, but someone who does is Louise Hay. She has written a number of books on healing using spiritual methods. They don’t work for me, but apparently they work for some. She claims to have cured herself of cancer.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (David Rix) writes: > >>Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for > Parkinson’s? > David: I’ve seen some positive results with biomagnetic products > specifically, NIKKEN, marketed in North America. It’s worth a try. >What is NIKKEN ? >Where can I get more information about NIKKEN ? >PLEASE share any experience you know about wrt NIKKEN. >THANKS, >-mcg

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Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for Parkinson’s? I know about anti-oxidants, homeopathic remedies (which haven’t worked). I am inquiring for a very dear friend of mine. — Adam Peritz * Origin: Medical System Munich – medsys.mu

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#Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for Parkinson’s? #I know about anti-oxidants, homeopathic remedies (which haven’t worked). #I am inquiring for a very dear friend of mine. # #– #Adam Peritz Two things: I have a file on it somewhere, and there is a mailing list. Should I send this info? If so, to what address, since I tried to reach your address privately but it bounced. TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility) | Voice: 604-222-1047 loc 6327/6278 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS | FAX: 604-222-1074 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA V6T 2A3 Damien says " If you don’t STAND for SOMETHING, you’ll FALL for ANYTHING " These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question. They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.

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: any information on any alternative therapies for Parkinson’s? #I : know about anti-oxidants, homeopathic remedies (which haven’t : worked). #I am inquiring for a very dear friend of mine. If those homeopathic remedies were not doctor prescribed, you are lucky they ‘didn’t work.’ Parkinson’s is a chronic, degenerative disease–not the sort of thing to self-treat with deep-acting homeopathic agents.

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>Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for Parkinson’s? >I know about anti-oxidants, homeopathic remedies (which haven’t worked). >I am inquiring for a very dear friend of mine. >– >Adam Peritz

I discovered a book called Smart Drugs and Nutrients which has many interesting things about what can maybe help both Parkinsons and Altziemers as well as some other memory etc disorders. I am in Sydney Australia, but the book comes from B&J Publications PO Box 483-903 Santa Cruz Ca 95061-0483. It’s about $12 or so. I wish your friend well !

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -(David Rix) writes: >Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for Parkinson’s? >I know about anti-oxidants, homeopathic remedies (which haven’t worked). >I am inquiring for a very dear friend of mine. >– >Adam Peritz >I discovered a book called Smart Drugs and Nutrients which has many >interesting things about what can maybe help both Parkinsons and Altziemers >as well as some other memory etc disorders. I am in Sydney Australia, but >the book comes from B&J Publications PO Box 483-903 Santa Cruz Ca 95061-0483. >It’s about $12 or so. I wish your friend well !

David: I’ve seen some positive results with biomagnetic products specifically, NIKKEN, marketed in North America. It’s worth a try.

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> (David Rix) writes: >>Does anyone have any information on any alternative therapies for > Parkinson’s? > David: I’ve seen some positive results with biomagnetic products > specifically, NIKKEN, marketed in North America. It’s worth a try.

What is NIKKEN ? Where can I get more information about NIKKEN ? PLEASE share any experience you know about wrt NIKKEN. THANKS, -mcg

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> Any >suggestions for food, herbs etc that may help slow the effects of this

disease would be greatly appreciated. Fava beans – especially the sprouts – are rich in l-dopa. Also, gingko and passionflower have been recommended.

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Hi, This is a disorder of the basal ganglia group of cells in the brain, these transmit messages to the nerves and muscles. When they degenerate voluntry movements become impaired. Each case is unique depending upon the extent of the degeneration of nerve cells. The use of Essential oils and the action of massage can really help cope with the siffness that often accompanies this condition. All of these oils have an effect upon the Central nervious system; Basil, Bergamot, Geranium, Hop, Lavender, Lemon, Marjoram, Nutmeg, Orange, Rosemary, Thyme, Valerian. A massage blend of; Basil Sweet {Ocimum Basilicum} 7 drops Lemon {Citrus Limonum} 5 drops Marjoram Sweet {Origanum Marjorana} 8 drops Rosemary {Rosmarinus Officinalis} 8 drops Valerian Root {Valeriana Walachi} 2 drops Diluted to 30ml in a vegetable carrier oil like Sweet Almond. This can be massaged on to the limbs and the upper an lower back. I have noticed an improvement in co-ordination of clients I have treated with Parkinsons. But the major effect is less muscle stiffness thus a better self management for the sufferer. Further as depression can accompany the condition a blend of; Lavender 40/42 {Lavendula Angustifolia} Orange {Citrus Aurantium var Dulcis} Bergamot {Citrus Bergamia} one drop of each oil in a warm bath helps ensure the spirit of the sufferer is not overwhelmed by the condition. However a word of caution, just as Essential Oils can help, they can also effect other pre existing conditions, so do take care not over use the oils. I hope this helps a little though. >Hi, >The father of a friend of mine has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons. Any >suggestions for food, herbs etc that may help slow the effects of this disease >would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks in advance

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There has been some indication that the B vitamins choline and inositol have helped some Parkinson’s and Alz. patients. A recently, but not widely available B-vitamin/antioxidant, has shown great promise for nerve type disorders is vitamin B15, or pangamic acid. Gingko bilboa, Siberian Ginseng, Gotu Kola, Kava kava root are herbs traditionally used to enhance the blood circulation in brain tissue. There is more detailed info on my website http://www.naturalmom.com and go to the vitamin/mineral/herbal guide. Vitamins are listed along with food sources, herbal sources and supplementation guidelines for each vitamin and mineral.. Help yourself. always harvesting food for thought, Skyfarmer

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Hi, The father of a friend of mine has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons. Any suggestions for food, herbs etc that may help slow the effects of this disease would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

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> Hi, > The father of a friend of mine has just been diagnosed with Parkinsons. Any > suggestions for food, herbs etc that may help slow the effects of this disease > would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks in advance

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