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There’s an aromatherapy mailing list. To become a member, send mail to and in the body of the message, put    join aromatherapy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->We in the U.S. tend to use aromatherapy also known as >essential oils differently than people in the UK. >In France they use many oils internally, where in the >UK they are mostly used in massage. I’m not saying >any one way is right or wrong.

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There’s an aromatherapy mailing list. To become a member, send mail to and in the body of the message, put    subscribe aromatherapy >We in the U.S. tend to use aromatherapy also known as >essential oils differently than people in the UK. >In France they use many oils internally, where in the >UK they are mostly used in massage. I’m not saying >any one way is right or wrong.

Aromatherapy E-Mail Discussion Group http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hunters/index.html

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We in the U.S. tend to use aromatherapy also known as essential oils differently than people in the UK. In France they use many oils internally, where in the UK they are mostly used in massage. I’m not saying any one way is right or wrong. It is unfortunate that the word ‘aromatherapy’ has come to mean perfume in the U.S., but that is changing. Here are some of the abstracts I have pulled from Medline. There are many more to be published out of Turkey very soon. The following information was compiled from searching MEDLINE. I have attempted to convert the medical lingo into an easier to understand format  Effects of Myrtle Essential Oil on uncomplicated sinus infection.  Originally published in German.  January 1997  This double-blind study was designed to demonstrate the importance  of allowing drainage of the sinuses as a therapeutic concept.  A study was begun with 331 patients who had acute sinusitis.  291 patients remained with the study.  The study was conducted  in 16 centers during a 14 day observation period.  The patients were treated for 6 +/- 2 days with Myrtle Essential  Oil, another unnamed Essential Oils or with a placebo.  The results of the study showed that both the Myrtle and other  Essential Oil were significantly superior to the placebo.  In conclusion:  The results of this double-blind study support the value of  Essential Oils like Myrtle as an effective treatment in acute  uncomplicated sinus infection instead of antibiotics as a  first choice.  Anti-fungal activity of Tea Tree (Melaleuca) Essential Oil  University of Leipzig, Germany  Published in 1996  This study was done in a laboratory.  26 strains of various skin  organism, 54 yeast

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Try kombucha tea……

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> I am a 53 year old male.  Recently I have noticed several dark spots on my > face.  The dermatologist said that there was nothing to worry about, i.e. they > are not cancerous.  Are they what people call liver spots?  If so, why do they > appear?  Living in the rainy Northwest, the cause could not be too much sun. > What is the best way to get rid of them?  I assume that, if the cause is > internal, just applying a cream would not really get rid of them.  Thanks for > any advice.

Hi I kind of doubt that they are liver spots which are an accumulation of intracellular garbage called lipofuscin. They seem more likely to be a pigment problem from excess melanin production, but your doctor should be able to tell for sure. One way to tell is to try DMAE which over time gets rid of lipofuscin deposits. It’s found in MindMax available from http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com BTW, lipofuscin builds up in the brain and contributes to senility! Gerry

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I am a 53 year old male.  Recently I have noticed several dark spots on my face.  The dermatologist said that there was nothing to worry about, i.e. they are not cancerous.  Are they what people call liver spots?  If so, why do they appear?  Living in the rainy Northwest, the cause could not be too much sun. What is the best way to get rid of them?  I assume that, if the cause is internal, just applying a cream would not really get rid of them.  Thanks for any advice.

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Hello, First for all other readers, changes to the skin need to be checked by a doctor as skin cancers can be quickly cured if treated early. It sounds like you have the start of liver spots.  They are the natural result of aging of the skin.  There is usually no way of reversing this natural ageing.  However some Essential oils can help stop, or at least slow down the effect.  In some cases they will even reverse the effect, but as with all Essential oil treatments they are not mirical cures. The blend I would surgest is; Eucalyptus Lemon {Eucalyptus Citriodora}  5 drops Lavender {Lavendula Angustifolia}             5 drops Carrot seed {Daccus Carota}                      5 drops Chamomile Roman {Anthemis Nobilis}         5 drops this is diluted to 5% in a carrier oil of 50% Apricot Kernal and 50% Borage seed.  {20ml Total} For a female the lavender can be changed to Rose Otto 3 drops Rosewood 2 drops This blend can be gently massaged into the skin on the face and neck, but ensure none goes into the eyes. >I am a 53 year old male.  Recently I have noticed several dark spots on my >face.  The dermatologist said that there was nothing to worry about, i.e. they >are not cancerous.  Are they what people call liver spots?  If so, why do they >appear?  Living in the rainy Northwest, the cause could not be too much sun. >What is the best way to get rid of them?  I assume that, if the cause is >internal, just applying a cream would not really get rid of them.  Thanks for >any advice.

Ian Hunter Aromatherapy E-Mail Discussion Group http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hunters/index.html

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> I am a 53 year old male.  Recently I have noticed several dark spots on my > face.  The dermatologist said that there was nothing to worry about, i.e. they > are not cancerous.  Are they what people call liver spots?  If so, why do they > appear?  Living in the rainy Northwest, the cause could not be too much sun. > What is the best way to get rid of them?  I assume that, if the cause is > internal, just applying a cream would not really get rid of them.  Thanks for > any advice.

Even though they appear not to be from sunlight, you might try topical retinoic acid. N Engl J Med 1992 Feb 6;326(6):368-374 Topical tretinoin (retinoic acid) treatment for liver spots associated with photodamage. Here is an abstract of a related review article which you perhaps should investigate. Clin Geriatr Med 1993 Feb;9(1):209-229 Dermatologic and cosmetic concerns of the older woman. Bolognia JL Department of Dermatology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut. The cutaneous signs of aging including wrinkles, solar lentigines ("liver spots"), and telangiectasias are primarily the result of repeated exposures to ultraviolet light (photoaging). Chronologic aging, and in women, estrogen withdrawal also exert an effect on the structure and function of the epidermis and dermis. In this article, the relative roles of these three factors are discussed, as are the most common skin lesions found in the older woman. Lastly, the therapeutic options available for the treatment of these age-associated cutaneous disorders are outlined. –Tom Tom Matthews The LIFE EXTENSION FOUNDATION – http://www.lef.org – 800-841-5433 A non-profit membership organization dedicated to the extension of the healthy human lifespan through ground breaking research, innovative ideas and practical methods. LIFE EXTENSION MAGAZINE – The ultimate source for new health and medical findings from around the world.

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> Re: > > > Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > > > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > > > haven’t been able to find any. >  ’About 60 percent of women have fibrocystic breast changes which are normal’, > according to Dr. Richard Santen at the University of Virginia Medical Center > quoted in Healthweek Online.

In that same web article, Dr. Santen states that fibro is something that should be treated and not ignored.   Some types of fibro are connected with an increased risk of breast cancer. As I have mentioned before on this newsgroup, many women have eliminated their cysts and pain by eliminating bra wearing.  For more on this, see: http://www.all-natural.com/fibrocys.html         Some people may scoff at this "treatment" but two medical doctors thought enough of it to start a clinical study of bras and fibro this year.           Best wishes.

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Good advice from Sao, a few things that also asre of importance are: Many women with fibrocyctic disease of the breast are iodine deficient and a good treatment would be to take three drops of iodine per week (one every other day under tongue.)  THis is important especially if you are going to remove some of the salt content from your diet because salt is a major source of iodine. This worked for me so I hope that it helps you out . . . Yours sincerely Kristen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Re: > > > Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > > > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > > > haven’t been able to find any. >  ’About 60 percent of women have fibrocystic breast changes which are normal’, > according to Dr. Richard Santen at the University of Virginia Medical Center > quoted in Healthweek Online. > simplest treatment first: avoiding caffeine. >  Many women swear by 3 other simple therapies in dealing with breast pain, > even though their effectiveness hasn’t been proven. >                          high doses of vitamin E. >                          evening primrose oil. >                          and reducing the salt in the diet, since it leads to > fluid retention and swelling, and therefore breast pain. > Best wishes, > Sao Ricardo > Publisher > http://www.bodywise.net > Worldwide health news sourced from leading institutes with user-friendly > design. Now updated weekly with indepth features, infobytes, late breaking > news, book reviews and resource information.

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Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I haven’t been able to find any. Karen

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>Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d >like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I >haven’t been able to find any. >Karen

   Fibrocystic disease, where the lumps vary cyclicly in response to estrogen level in the menstrual cycle, sometimes responds to vitamin E 400-800 U a day (it’s a mild anti-estrogen).  However, if you’ve got a lump that lasts more than a month, you probably should have it biopsied.  Certainly you should have it mammogrammed, and findings there can guide further decission-making.                                      Steve Harris, M.D.  

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Try making castor oil compresses.  Soak a piece of unbleached wool in the oil, lay on the breast, cover with plastic and then a heating pad.  Do this for hours at night.  You can also use just the wool and plastic, and keep this on all day.  Store the wool in a plastic bag between uses and add more oil as needed. The oil pulls toxins out of the breast tissue and may eventually stain the cloth.  Caster oil and wool are available at health food stores or Home Health at 800-284-9123. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d >like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I >haven’t been able to find any. >Karen

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Hello Karen, As long as you are sure that the lump{s} are benign, avoiding the controled wounding of surgery is often better. Assuming that the lump is a fiborious cystic disease, then reducing or cuting out Tea and Coffee will help.  As will a good balanced diet, prefrably a vegitarian one.   Further following two double blind trials at University of Dundee, Scottland and Hospital of Wales, Cardiff.  Evening Primrose Oil {a good quality 10% GLA} has been shown to help and in some cases promote remission. The next stage is Aromatherapy Massage.  A blend of Lavender {Spike} {Lavendula Latifolia} 10 drops Cypress {Cypressus Sempervirens}          5 drops Chamomile Roman {Anthemis Nobilis}      5 drops diluted to 20ml in a base carrier oil of wheatgerm This can be self applied to the breasts or by your partner every other day.  The same oils can also be massaged onto the back to help the muscles that suport the breast.  Exercise like doing the breast stroke, in or out of the water will also help here too. I hope this helps >Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d >like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I >haven’t been able to find any. >Karen

Ian Hunter Aromatherapy E-Mail Discussion Group http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/hunters/index.html

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Hunter) writes: >Hello Karen, >As long as you are sure that the lump{s} are benign, avoiding the >controled wounding of surgery is often better.

    Well, duh.  But that’s exactly the problem, isn’t it?

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> Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > haven’t been able to find any. > Karen

Karen, many women have eliminated the pain and lumps of fibrocystic breast disease by eliminating the wearing of bras.  Yes, it may sound strange at first, but I know of seven women who had this exact experience, AND felt strongly enough about their results that they wrote their stories for other women to see, at:       http://web.arcos.org/mtardif/cstudies.htm As you will read, some of these women tried many of the usual recommended treatments (no coffee, vitamin E, low fat diet), but only with limited effect.  But, when they quit wearing bras, they found dramatic results in just a few weeks.         A controlled, clinical study will be started shortly at a couple of hospitals.  The efficacy of this "treatment" should be known in a year or so.  In the meantime, you can test it out yourself.             However, like Dr. Harris says, be sure to get yourself checked out, to make sure that it is just fibro.  Best wishes.

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> Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > haven’t been able to find any. > Karen

Hi Fibroids respond well to natural estrogen. You can do a search at http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com for more information. Gerry

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Benign breast lumps are not fibroids, which grow in the uterus.  Before surgery why not try Danacrine, an anti estrogen.  This will shrink the cysts if that’s what you have (fibrocystic breast disease).  In many cases the cysts do not return. — Carol …. ***Bills travel through the mail at twice the speed of checks. *** – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > haven’t been able to find any. > Karen > Hi > Fibroids respond well to natural estrogen. You can do a search at > http://www.naturalhealthconsult.com for more information. > Gerry

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Re: > > Does anyone know of alternative treatments for benign breast lumps? I’d > > like to try alternatives before I agree to surgery albeit minor. I > > haven’t been able to find any.

 ’About 60 percent of women have fibrocystic breast changes which are normal’, according to Dr. Richard Santen at the University of Virginia Medical Center quoted in Healthweek Online. simplest treatment first: avoiding caffeine.  Many women swear by 3 other simple therapies in dealing with breast pain, even though their effectiveness hasn’t been proven.                          high doses of vitamin E.                          evening primrose oil.                          and reducing the salt in the diet, since it leads to fluid retention and swelling, and therefore breast pain. Best wishes, Sao Ricardo Publisher http://www.bodywise.net Worldwide health news sourced from leading institutes with user-friendly design. Now updated weekly with indepth features, infobytes, late breaking news, book reviews and resource information.

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Please respond if you know of a training program in Aromatherapy (correspondence course preferred).  I’m a certified clinical massage therapist and neuromuscular therapist as well as a psychologist.  I have begun to study aromatherapy on my own but would like additional formal training.  If you can help, please Thank you, MC — MIC

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Have you tried http://atlanticinstitute.com/ Sylla Shephard-Hanger is an author and educator in Aromatherapy, and is Great!  I’ve taken a class w/her in FL, and love her! She has excellent classis, long, short, or excelerated I think.

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He’s got to be new.  He’ll learn when he sees his 4th or 5th thousandth ‘come look at my Web page’ cross posted to an inappropriate group… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone > > posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they > > have every right to post it.  Last time I checked we had freedom of > > speech, freedom of the press and we were also in a Fre country and NOT a > > dictatorship. > The Internet is International you moron, what is the law in your country > isn’t in many others. >    [Heavy breathing sounds (of cultist who has discovered how to turn some >brass by doing things that are quite possibly legal but appallingly >unethical) have been omitted] >Now please listen up, lambie pie… >This country (in case you hadn’t noticed) enjoys a more-than-adequate >supply of native-grown sphyncters. Over nearly two thousand years, >careful measures have been put in place to limit the ingress of the >imported variety. The internet is so new that the official measures (so >painfully obvious as urgent to anyone who has been reading this thread) >to choke off undesired cybernetic pollution have as yet to be installed. >Your concern for your liberties is admirable. What is deplorable is your >lack of respect for others. We may be slightly different from other >groups in that we bite when trod on. It may be a new experience for you >and I hope you have learnt from it. Believe us when we say that we now >know where to look if we ever feel ourselves in need of the range of >services you provide. Come back and visit us when you have nothing to >sell. >JimW (in need of a nice backrub but won’t pay…) >JimW

"If I die of curiosity, who will entertain you with naive questions?"  I only answer my mail on an average of once every two months.  Be patient.  http://www.visi.com/~cyli/

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Do you want your offensive language reported?  It will be if you continue and your account will be discontinued. This is against internet rules.  

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> > >What is your problem.  I HAVE NEVER INSULTED YOU. > Posting spam to demon.local is considered an insult, ok? > Which is…? Your posting was spammed to so many newsgroups it makes > your last statement totally meaningless… > Get a brain cell buddy > I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone > posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they > have every right to post it.  Last time I checked we had freedom of > speech, freedom of the press and we were also in a Fre country and NOT a > dictatorship.

That’s right. It’s also why I can feel free to tell you that demon.local does not welcome adverts for services, webpages or celebrity penis auctions. > I did say demon didn’t seem to be a valid site for it BUT I ALSO SAID > THAT I HADN’T SEEN the original post so I do not know if he had put your > site in his post or not.

So what are you wingeing on about. You didn’t even see the origional post, you don’t read all the groups x-posted to but  you are quite happy to say that the material was appropriate to them all and more to the point we should be gratefull. > and I NEVER INSULTED ANYONE so stop insulting me. You people are > immature in the U.K.  Is the only way you can win is by insulting > people??

No, but sniveling little cunt’s like you deserve it. > Now I will AGAIN remove your site from the followups if you don’t want > this in your group then DON’T RESPOND and DON’T CHANGE THE FOLLOWUPS.

You didn’t seem to manage it though so we can add ‘incompetent fuckwit’ to the list of attributes. > If you do respond and change the followups then you are telling people > that its o.k. to send it to your site. Think about it….

Tell you what, I’ll set the follow-up’s properly on this one. — Suck The Goat

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WOW!!! This is an intelligent exchange of ideas. "Misc.Health.Alternative". Remember that people. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Fleming) writes: > > Yes we do. Posters from demon.local regularly mail postmasters and > > abuse addresses with complaints about spammers etc. You obviously > > haven’t a clue what the fuck you’re on about. > > You really don’t have a fucking clue, do you? Did you have to have a > > lobotomy before getting an internet account? > > Mike Fleming > What is your problem.  I HAVE NEVER INSULTED YOU. > And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup. >It’s tolerated in ‘our’ newsgroup, to which whatever fuckwit it was in >the first place crossposted it. Stop being so fucking sensitive. > Get a life buddy. >Stick your head up your arse, shit-for-brains. > All I was saying that this guy has a right to inform us of his FREE site > since it was relevant groups. >demon.local is not and never has been a relevant group. > Your on some kind of God complex trip. >I quote you above: > And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup. >Obviously you’re on some kind of God complex trip. > I think you should come back down to earth. You have NO RIGHT insulting > people. >I have every right to insult fuckwits. Of course, the downside is that >they have every right to insult me back, but that doesn’t really >matter because they’re fuckwits…

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> > The Internet is International you moron, what is the law in your country > isn’t in many others. >         [Heavy breathing sounds (of cultist who has discovered how to turn some > brass by doing things that are quite possibly legal but appallingly > unethical) have been omitted]

 Now please listen up, lambie pie… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> This country (in case you hadn’t noticed) enjoys a more-than-adequate > supply of native-grown sphyncters. Over nearly two thousand years, > careful measures have been put in place to limit the ingress of the > imported variety. The internet is so new that the official measures (so > painfully obvious as urgent to anyone who has been reading this thread) > to choke off undesired cybernetic pollution have as yet to be installed. > Your concern for your liberties is admirable. What is deplorable is your > lack of respect for others. We may be slightly different from other > groups in that we bite when trod on. It may be a new experience for you > and I hope you have learnt from it. Believe us when we say that we now > know where to look if we ever feel ourselves in need of the range of > services you provide. Come back and visit us when you have nothing to > sell. > JimW (in need of a nice backrub but won’t pay…) > JimW

Fuck you ASSHOLE. I wasn’t even talking to you. You peice of shit. You better stay out of our group. You sound like you are such a dipshit. Did your parents have any kids that survived? I hate you ass lickers. Tell me do you call your father "Dad" or "Bro" ?

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>Fuck off >Fuck off >Fuck off >Fuck off >Fuck off

succint is {R} Markus… If the customer is sweating…                     Turn up the heat…    -20th Rule Of Acquisition…                         leCHEF

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> > Yes we do. Posters from demon.local regularly mail postmasters and > abuse addresses with complaints about spammers etc. You obviously > haven’t a clue what the fuck you’re on about. > You really don’t have a fucking clue, do you? Did you have to have a > lobotomy before getting an internet account? > Mike Fleming > What is your problem.  I HAVE NEVER INSULTED YOU. > And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup.

It’s tolerated in ‘our’ newsgroup, to which whatever fuckwit it was in the first place crossposted it. Stop being so fucking sensitive. > Get a life buddy.

Stick your head up your arse, shit-for-brains. > All I was saying that this guy has a right to inform us of his FREE site > since it was relevant groups.

demon.local is not and never has been a relevant group. > Your on some kind of God complex trip.

I quote you above: > And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup.

Obviously you’re on some kind of God complex trip. > I think you should come back down to earth. You have NO RIGHT insulting > people.

I have every right to insult fuckwits. Of course, the downside is that they have every right to insult me back, but that doesn’t really matter because they’re fuckwits…

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> Fuck off > Fuck off > Fuck off > Fuck off > Fuck off

Nice. You people at Demon.uk have quite the attitude problem. I am ending this thread INSIDE your ng. GET out of ours. YOUR THE ONES WHO CONTINUED THIS STUPID DISCUSSION.

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> > I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone > posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they > have every right to post it.  Last time I checked we had freedom of > speech, freedom of the press and we were also in a Fre country and NOT a > dictatorship. > The Internet is International you moron, what is the law in your country > isn’t in many others.

        [Heavy breathing sounds (of cultist who has discovered how to turn some brass by doing things that are quite possibly legal but appallingly unethical) have been omitted] Now please listen up, lambie pie… This country (in case you hadn’t noticed) enjoys a more-than-adequate supply of native-grown sphyncters. Over nearly two thousand years, careful measures have been put in place to limit the ingress of the imported variety. The internet is so new that the official measures (so painfully obvious as urgent to anyone who has been reading this thread) to choke off undesired cybernetic pollution have as yet to be installed. Your concern for your liberties is admirable. What is deplorable is your lack of respect for others. We may be slightly different from other groups in that we bite when trod on. It may be a new experience for you and I hope you have learnt from it. Believe us when we say that we now know where to look if we ever feel ourselves in need of the range of services you provide. Come back and visit us when you have nothing to sell. JimW (in need of a nice backrub but won’t pay…) JimW

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> Yes we do. Posters from demon.local regularly mail postmasters and > abuse addresses with complaints about spammers etc. You obviously > haven’t a clue what the fuck you’re on about. > You really don’t have a fucking clue, do you? Did you have to have a > lobotomy before getting an internet account? > Mike Fleming

What is your problem.  I HAVE NEVER INSULTED YOU. And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup. Get a life buddy. All I was saying that this guy has a right to inform us of his FREE site since it was relevant groups. Your on some kind of God complex trip. I think you should come back down to earth. You have NO RIGHT insulting people.

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> >What is your problem.  I HAVE NEVER INSULTED YOU. > Posting spam to demon.local is considered an insult, ok? > Which is…? Your posting was spammed to so many newsgroups it makes > your last statement totally meaningless… > Get a brain cell buddy

I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they have every right to post it.  Last time I checked we had freedom of speech, freedom of the press and we were also in a Fre country and NOT a dictatorship. I did say demon didn’t seem to be a valid site for it BUT I ALSO SAID THAT I HADN’T SEEN the original post so I do not know if he had put your site in his post or not. and I NEVER INSULTED ANYONE so stop insulting me. You people are immature in the U.K.  Is the only way you can win is by insulting people?? Now I will AGAIN remove your site from the followups if you don’t want this in your group then DON’T RESPOND and DON’T CHANGE THE FOLLOWUPS. If you do respond and change the followups then you are telling people that its o.k. to send it to your site. Think about it….

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> And your swearing is NOT tolerated in our Newsgroup.

Off topic adverts like the one that started this thread aren’t tolerated in demon.local you hypocritical little shit. — To reply to this message there is no need to remove anything from my email address, clever that!

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> I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone > posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they > have every right to post it.  Last time I checked we had freedom of > speech, freedom of the press and we were also in a Fre country and NOT a > dictatorship.

The Internet is International you moron, what is the law in your country isn’t in many others. > I did say demon didn’t seem to be a valid site for it BUT I ALSO SAID > THAT I HADN’T SEEN the original post so I do not know if he had put your > site in his post or not.

So you are trying to imply that someone from demon.local added demon.local just to complain about it becase we don’t like adverts?  You am the twat. > and I NEVER INSULTED ANYONE so stop insulting me. You people are > immature in the U.K.  Is the only way you can win is by insulting > people??

You love it you whoare! > Now I will AGAIN remove your site from the followups if you don’t want > this in your group then DON’T RESPOND and DON’T CHANGE THE FOLLOWUPS.

I have responded because you obviously couldn’t set a followup to save your life. > If you do respond and change the followups then you are telling people > that its o.k. to send it to your site. Think about it….

No, I am doing no such thing.  Adverts are not tolerated in demon.local. Mind you I suppose if you can make suck stupid IF…THEN statements then I’ll have one of my own.  If you continue to breathe after reading this then you admit to not having a clue. — To reply to this message there is no need to remove anything from my email address, clever that! My thanks got o Lee & Herring for help in the preparation of this message.

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> > You’re wrong.  He is simply sending his post to as many newsgroups as > possible in a bid to maximise the number of hits.  The newsgroups may be > slightly related but they are not all about the same thing – which is > why they all exist.  As for my newsgroup, demon.local, it is not > relevant at all.  He *is* spamming the newsgroups and is no different to > the psychics or sex sites in that respect. > You might be happy to see people dump shit in newsgroups as it suits > them.  Others are not. > No I detest SPAM but HIS post was NOT SPAM.

It was unwelcome in one of the newsgroups, demon.local, to which he posted. Something he could have found out had he ever actually bothered to read the newsgroup, or to read Demon’s description of which newsgroups are to be used for what. > It was advertising is NON Commercial site (which I said before you > should have listed his URL so that I could actually visit it).

It was advertising. Thank you for agreeing. We don’t want no steenking adverts. If you’re happy for the other newsgroups on this list to be filled up with adverts, fine. Crossposting to demon.local, however, will result only in the clogging of the other newsgroups with demon.local regulars complaining about the advert. > I’ve seen you complain about normal people who list their FREE (so it > was said that it was free anyways) sites but You DON’T attack the REAL > SPAMMERS the ones who place those PSYCHIC and SEX ads Twenty million > times on the SAME day.

Yes we do. Posters from demon.local regularly mail postmasters and abuse addresses with complaints about spammers etc. You obviously haven’t a clue what the fuck you’re on about. > I’m guessing you probably offer a Pay service so that is why you detest > people who offer things for FREE.

You really don’t have a fucking clue, do you? Did you have to have a lobotomy before getting an internet account? >  Also don’t worry, I’ve removed your demon ng from the followups.

Oh well, I stuck it back in, but I’ve set followups away. — Mike Fleming

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writes: > I did NOT post the original post I was simply saying that if someone > posts information that is relevant to our groups (which it was) they > have every right to post it.

*Sigh* It was posted to demon.local. It is not relevant here, nor wanted. Do get a clue, please. > Last time I checked we had freedom of speech, freedom of the press and > we were also in a Fre country and NOT a dictatorship.

You’re posting to d.l. and if I want to tell you to fuck off, I will. > I did say demon didn’t seem to be a valid site for it BUT I ALSO SAID > THAT I HADN’T SEEN the original post so I do not know if he had put > your site in his post or not.

Hmmm. That’s clever. You freely admit to not having seen the original and still moan. Oh dear. > and I NEVER INSULTED ANYONE so stop insulting me. You people are > immature in the U.K.  Is the only way you can win is by insulting > people??

Fuck off. > Now I will AGAIN remove your site from the followups if you don’t want > this in your group then DON’T RESPOND and DON’T CHANGE THE FOLLOWUPS.

Ah, but you didn’t set followups at all, did you thicko. > If you do respond and change the followups then you are telling people > that its o.k. to send it to your site. Think about it….

Follow-ups set to exclude demon.local. Have a free pop at me. Now fuck off. — Neil Barker.

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My apologies for setting off the imature people who seem to think that Demon.local is their plaything and no one else can join. Some of them are known Trolls so the best thing to do is to ignore them and not reply so that there little games get no response. Sorry to you all on these newsgroups again. demon.local has been removed from this message — Graham Sorenson http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk

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I have just revamped my web site. Lots more Oils in the list, not over 140 mentioned, a new look, and a single page with hundreds of links to Aromatherapy sites. Lots of links to other complementary health sites This is a non-commercial site. The Guide to Aromatherapy, the Aromatherapy book list, hundreds of links to Aromatherapy pages, Lots of Links to other Complementary health sites and other goodies can be found at:- http://www.fragrant.demon.co.uk To Join the Aromatherapy mailing list send a message to:- With only the Words:- join aromatherapy in the text — Graham Sorenson For Personal E-mail remove the "Rotweiler" Spam Guard dog from my Address

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> I have just revamped my web site. Lots more Oils in the list, not over > 140 mentioned, a new look, and a single page with hundreds of links to > Aromatherapy sites.

Great, you’ll no doubt want to advertise extensivly to all the relevant places, such as demon.local. > Lots of links to other complementary health sites > This is a non-commercial site.

And this is a general discussion newsgroup, amoung others. It’s not the place to advertise your smelly homepage. FU set. — Suck The Goat

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – s: > I have just revamped my web site. Lots more Oils in the list, not ove= r > 140 mentioned, a new look, and a single page with hundreds of links t= o > Aromatherapy sites. > Great, you’ll no doubt want to advertise extensivly to all the relevant= > places, such as demon.local. > Lots of links to other complementary health sites > This is a non-commercial site. > And this is a general discussion newsgroup, amoung others. It’s not the= > place to advertise your smelly homepage. > =

For one thing this site is helpful for some of us. You could have listed the site URL since I never saw the original ad. If the site is truly Non-Commercial then it is FREE and we could get Valuable information from it. Who made you god of the NET??????? If I want to go to his site I will. AT least he is sending his posts to relevant NG’s and is NOT spamming the Net like these psychic or sex sites. Now get off your high horse and relax. Take a deep breath and count to ten. Better yet why don’t you go and get yourself a nice massage Anyways thats my 3=A2 worth (Inflation)

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>If the site is truly Non-Commercial then it is FREE and we could get >Valuable information from it.

If you want valuable free information about a certain subject then do a search using a search engine.  www.hotbot.com is very good. >Who made you god of the NET???????

Except he never claimed he was. >If I want to go to his site I will.

Good for you. > AT least he is sending his posts to >relevant NG’s and is NOT spamming the Net like these psychic or sex >sites.

You’re wrong.  He is simply sending his post to as many newsgroups as possible in a bid to maximise the number of hits.  The newsgroups may be slightly related but they are not all about the same thing – which is why they all exist.  As for my newsgroup, demon.local, it is not relevant at all.  He *is* spamming the newsgroups and is no different to the psychics or sex sites in that respect. >Now get off your high horse and relax. Take a deep breath and count to >ten. Better yet why don’t you go and get yourself a nice massage

You might be happy to see people dump shit in newsgroups as it suits them.  Others are not. [FU to dl] — Regards, Chris – in Liverpool, UK  |  "Absorb what is useful, http://www.spacetime.demon.co.uk/  |   reject what is useless."  == Replace ‘news’ with ‘cl’ ===   |  ====== to reply by email ======   |                - Bruce Lee

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> You’re wrong.  He is simply sending his post to as many newsgroups as > possible in a bid to maximise the number of hits.  The newsgroups may be > slightly related but they are not all about the same thing – which is > why they all exist.  As for my newsgroup, demon.local, it is not > relevant at all.  He *is* spamming the newsgroups and is no different to > the psychics or sex sites in that respect. > You might be happy to see people dump shit in newsgroups as it suits > them.  Others are not.

No I detest SPAM but HIS post was NOT SPAM. It was advertising is NON Commercial site (which I said before you should have listed his URL so that I could actually visit it). I’ve seen you complain about normal people who list their FREE (so it was said that it was free anyways) sites but You DON’T attack the REAL SPAMMERS the ones who place those PSYCHIC and SEX ads Twenty million times on the SAME day. I’m guessing you probably offer a Pay service so that is why you detest people who offer things for FREE.  Also don’t worry, I’ve removed your demon ng from the followups.

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Hi all, I have recently found your newsgroup and have been reading the messages with great interest.  I have been a PA victim for the past 18 years (I’m now 39).  Like many of you I have gone through most of the medical system and have used most if not all creams/ointments/mixtures and also many of the drugs such as Methotrexate, Hydroxiurea (not sure if I spelled that one right) Neotigason.  I have done the years of blood tests, fastinf lipid tests, liver biopsies etc.  I have not yet used PUVA.  I am currently using Neotigason and Dovonex without much success at the moment unfortunately.  I have a bad habit of quickly building up an immunity to drugs I have had 5 spells in a specialist Skin hospital over here in the last 8 years in the following manner.  1st visit, clear in 1 week, 2nd visit (1 year later) clear in 2 weeks, 3rd visit (1 year later) clear in 3 weeks, 4th visit (18months later) clear in 5 weeks and my last visit about 2 years ago took 6 weeks to clear me.  I have now decided that unless there is some dramatic breakthrough, I’m not returning to hospital. Enough of my history.  I’m very interested in two of the topics being discussed.  One is this product called EXOREX the second being SKIN CAP.  I have never heard of either of these and I have enquired from several Pharmacists with no success to date. I would much appreciate any genuine information on either or both products plus genuine confirmation from users that it worked/didn’t work for them.  I’m only too well aware that what might work for you, mightn’t for me so don’t be afraid to comment.  Secondly, my palms and finger tips are in a desparate state at the moment with layers of skin missing (it’s even sore typing).  I was wondering if anyone out there had any ideas as to any product that might help for P of the hands. PS.  I noticed that in several mssages there were suggestions/debates as to whether a product in "cream" form or "ointment" form was better.  For what it’s worth, one of the nurses that treated me on all 5 occasions I was inside, and who had 30 years plus experience in treating skin problems had a saying and it’s something like this :- "if it’s dry, wet it and if it’s wet, dry it".  By that she meant if the area being treated consisted of dry matter only then use the ointment but if it consisted of moistened matter (such as causd by scratching the area) then use the cream form of the product. Sorry for my message being a bit long but as I say this is my first and I promise in future to be brief ))) Thanks for providing me with a forum for airing my views on PA.                 _|/_                        (o   o) Michael Murphy, Dungarvan, Waterford, Ireland. fidomail           :         2:263/900.3 –

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Read with interest your long post about your P. I also have it on the palms of the hands and on my feet . It is very painful in both. I sent for skincap and used for about two weeks, with no results!! I also got Exorex and after an apparent recovery , have my feet peeling the outer dermis now. It might work for some people , but apparently not for me . Hope this is useful in any way! A. Ceide

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> Read with interest your long post about your P. I also have it on the > palms of the hands and on my feet . It is very painful in both. > I sent for skincap and used for about two weeks, with no results!! > I also got Exorex and after an apparent recovery , have my feet peeling > the outer dermis now. It might work for some people , but apparently not > for me . > Hope this is useful in any way! > A. Ceide

I have the same type of P, with some on my scalp as well.  Last autumn I had a bad cold and was sure that my P would flare up after a week or two, it normally does.  This time I was told by a friend, who is into aromatherapy, to try to rub some tea-tree-oil under my feet to help the cold clear off. Tea-tree oil is supposed to be anti-bacterial, anti-viral (s?) and anti-fungal, and help against any infections, rubbing it under the feet should be the next best to a massage.  I used some pure oil, a drop under each foot every evening for a week or so, the cold got better (with our without the oil?) and I did not think much about it first. Then after another week I  noticed that my P did not flare up, it actually got much better!.  And since that I’ve had a very long periode without any new outbreaks.  A month a go I had a cold again, I tried the same prosedure, and it helped this time to.  I can’t prove that it is the oil, but I’ve started to wonder… Aina Nilsen

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snip Hi, Aina! Nice to have you back! It feels a bit funny to write in English to a fellow norse, but I will do that anyway, using Norwegian would not be fair to others on the group… I tried a lotion containing tea tree oil. I got a bottle from a person that had heard it was suppose to be good for P. I applied a bit on my arm. Only a few minutes later my had trouble breathing… I suppose that I am allergic to the stuff, I had to use asthma spray to breath normally again, and of course I scrubbed the stuff off. Never tried it since. I am only mentioning this because others that also have allergies should try it with caution the first time in order to test it… What you are telling is interesting though… Look forward to hear what experiences others have… Have a nice weekend! Aase Marit  :))))

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> For what it’s worth, one of the >nurses that treated me on all 5 occasions I was inside, and who >had 30 years plus experience in treating skin problems had a >saying and it’s something like this :- "if it’s dry, wet it and >if it’s wet, dry it".  

That advice is the first part of a medical school joke about dermatology.  Everything you need to know about dermatology: If it is dry, wet it, if it wet, dry it, and if you don’t know what the hell it is put steroid ointment on it.

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>> For what it’s worth, one of the >nurses that treated me on all 5 occasions I was inside, and who >had 30 years plus experience in treating skin problems had a >saying and it’s something like this :- "if it’s dry, wet it and >if it’s wet, dry it".   >That advice is the first part of a medical school joke about >dermatology.  Everything you need to know about dermatology: If it is >dry, wet it, if it wet, dry it, and if you don’t know what the hell it >is put steroid ointment on it.

The other quotable quote about dermatology is: Dermatology is the best speciality.  The patient never dies …. and never gets well! I think there is a lot of truth in that, especially when it comes to PSO.

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>That advice is the first part of a medical school joke about >dermatology.  Everything you need to know about dermatology: If it is >dry, wet it, if it wet, dry it, and if you don’t know what the hell it >is put steroid ointment on it.

Wish that sounded more like a joke and less like the derms I’ve seen. J.

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Heehee!  Just wanted to introduce myself and say hi.  I guess I don’t have to tell you that I’ll be writing a lot in here when I’m manic, and will just read when depressed, unless I’m really* depressed . . . well, you understand.  I know you do.  That’s what’s wonderful. I’m manic-depressive, sometimes both at once, usually on the depressed side.  I occasionally go off my meds so I can think and get things accomplished, but then I become angry, mildly paranoid, and downright anti-social.  Oh, and did I mention, incredibly creative?  ;)  When I take my meds, I’m in a fog between naps. I lost my job nearly two years ago because of the illness itself, drug reactions, and other conditions of  a more "physical" nature.  The house went last summer, and the bankruptcy was just over a year ago. I have an 18 year old daughter who has similar problems, but hasn’t come to terms with them yet, and am engaged to a great guy who also runs a little to the anti-social side.  We’re great together, we just don’t like being around other people much.  We have computers in two separate rooms, and have worked out the "I love you but leave me alone" stuff quite nicely. Well, that’s a start.  You haven’t heard the last of me!  <grin> Thanks for being here, everyone!

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> Heehee!  Just wanted to introduce myself and say hi.  I guess I don’t > have to tell you that I’ll be writing a lot in here when I’m manic, > and will just read when depressed, unless I’m really* depressed . . . > well, you understand.  I know you do.  That’s what’s wonderful.

Carol, A *very* belated welcome to the family. I’m just now catching up on two weeks of newsgroup reading. – barry

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I have read that lavender is very soothing.  It is also reputed to be good for healing burns.  I also read somewhere that a few drops on a cottonball in the ear can be helpful for ear infections.

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Lavender: AKA: Nard, Spike, Spikenard, Elf Leaf. History: Lavender has been used for over two thousand years. In Biblical times, those who could afford the luxury paid 100 Roman denarii (about $10 US) a pound for lavender blossoms. Legend has it that lavender was a favorite flower of the Virgin Mary.  In those times, it was known as

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Dear Elizabeth: PLEASE, do yourself a favor (and your counterpart) … check out the following web site, type it exactly the way I am typing it here; http://members.AOL.COM/dearest Ask them for an information packet about their products and services, it is quite informative and very extensive with lots of great info about PMS, Menopause, etc.   Speaking from experience, the symptoms you describe, could actually be perimenopausal symptoms, NOT PMS, although PMS is certainly also a possibility.  I have names and addresses of many other places, people with regards to womens health.  If interested, please email me and we’ll talk some more.  I am not selling anything, I am simply a women who has been down the rocky road of raging hormones and have tried just about EVERYTHING under the sun.  Now, for the first time in 13 years, I feel wonderfully normal.  (I’d rather not get into my private regime over the news group however). Hope to hear from you.  Do check out the dearest web site!!!! Health and Healing Susan Renkel, RN

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Dear Elisabeth: I use a product put out by Rexall which is a nautral homeopathic medicine.  It truly helps activate the body’s own process to work naturally to help balance the many symptoms.  If you like I will send you my catalogue and you can call Rexall and order.  100% guaranteed.  If it doesn’t work for you they refund your $$$.  Send me your mailing address by e-mailing it to me.  This e-mail address is okay or my personal e-mail is:

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> I have a problem with PMS and it really annoys me (and my spouse…). Please help me!

Elisabeth, What I have experienced as the best thing for PMS is applying wild yam cream to your body everyday in the last 13 days of your menstrual cycle (post-ovulation) It is good for evening out mood swings and rages. It has hormones that create balance (progesterone) in a natural compound. Good luck, Shannon Brophy, Midwife  For information on Yoga, Massage and Bodywork, and Natural Healing                  or to browse Holistic Products to order       visit the Roots & Wings Website at http://www.yoga.com

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Dear Elisabeth,    There are two books which could help you. They are published in the US, and I don’t know how available they would be in Europe. One is "Herbal Healing for Women" by Rosemary Gladstar, published by Simon & Schuster, and the other is "Menopausal Years: The Wise Woman Way" by Susun Weed, published by Ash Tree Publishing, phone (914)246-8081. The second book has a great deal of information for young women as well as menopausal women, with a good section on PMS.     Pardon me for being blunt, but it sounds like your boyfriend is a bigger problem than your PMS. He needs to learn that you are not obligated to provide him with sex, and he sould stop pressuring you to have sex when you don’t want to. Maybe some counseling would help. -Annika — -Annika

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Try taking Royal Jelly pills Worked for my wife. And me. Bruce

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Check out the following web site and follow the link to the Recommended Nutrition Guide – there are sections for menopause and related conditions. http://members.tripod.com/~lifeplus/index.htm Joanne

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> Dear Elizabeth: > [info about PMS website snipped]

Dear Susan: I couldn’t get the post from Elizabeth, so, if you would, please pass on this info to her.  Thank you! Multi-Modality Regimen for PMS Prevention & Alleviation Pre-Menstrual Syndrome is thought to be the result of hormonal imbalance of progesterone in the days prior to menstruation.  The various hormones in your body work in an integrated, synergistic manner, but each woman’s profile of hormones is different.  Consequently, the hormonal imbalance of progesterone will vary for each woman and will effect each woman differently.  Health practitioners in the various fields all have different recommendations for dealing with PMS.  This regimen is a blend of conservative recommendations from the regular medical, holistic health, massage and aromatherapy fields. Before starting any health regimen you should CONSULT WITH YOUR OWN DOCTOR.   The items starred require a prescription, so you will need to see an MD for them anyway.  Try the dietary changes first.  If that doesn’t help, add other items.  The list is in order, with the most conservative first.  Try to find the minimum change necessary to achieve results.  It helps to keep a diary or notes so you can keep track of what you’ve tried each month. Start the day preceding expected onset of symptoms.  Continue until the end of your menstrual period.                 Morning       Noon        Afternoon    Evening  Bedtime Meals(1)        Prot & Veg    Prot & Veg  Prot & Veg   Fruit         Potassium       10 mil-equiv              10 mil-equiv Magnesium       250 mg        250 mg      250 mg       250 mg Ibuprofin       200 mg        200 mg      200 mg       200 mg   600 mg Herbs(2)        1 dose                    1 dose                1 dose EvPrmrose Oil   1 capsule                 1 capsule             1 capsule Aromatherapy(3) bath/massage              massage               bath/massage Progonol(4)     1/4"                                   1/4" *Maxzide-25(5)  1/2 tablet               *Procardia(6)   10 mg                     10 mg                 10 mg *Fiorinal(7)    1 tablet                  1 tablet              1 tablet 1      Fruits:  cherries, nectarines, plums, melons, mangos, pineapple.    Vegetables:  tomatoes, lettuce, cucumbers, peppers, cauliflower, asparagus.       Protein:  white meat tuna/chicken packed in water or broiled fish.    Basically, you want a high protein, low fat, low salt, low fiber     diet during this time. 2  Dr. Barmakian’s Cycle Herbs or a similar herbal blend. 3  Mix rose oil, clary-sage oil, and bergamot oil in the ratio of 3-4-3.       For an aromatherapy bath, add 6 or 7 drops of this blend to running     hot bath water.  For a massage, add 30 drops of this blend to two     tablespoons of grapeseed oil and rub over your abdomen, hips, and     lower back down to the coccyx.  The massage is recommended after a     hot bath. 4  This is an OTC Natural Progesterone cream.  It has the highest amount     (3%) allowed by the FDA.  Vitamin Express has a good price on it.     If you can get a MD’s prescription then order a 10% Natural Progesterone     cream from Women’s International Pharmacy.  It is less expensive than     any OTC cream. 5  Or a similar potassium-sparing diuretic, as directed by your physician. 6  Or as directed by your physician.  Procardia acts to restore the normal    intracellular calcium/magnesium ratio.  It relaxes smooth muscles and    helps relieve cramps. 7  Or as directed by your physician. Sincerely, Paul Anacker Editor "Biological Aging Measurement" by Ward Dean, MD

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Hi! My name is Elisabeth, and I live in Europe, in Scandinavia. I have a problem with PMS and it really annoys me (and my spouse…). Please help me! It is my spouse who is now pushing me to do something about it. I’m a 34 yr old woman and I have the following symptoms. The problems start around the 20th each month. The cycle changes forward slightly every time. – Depressed, feeling "low" – Irritated and short tempered – Constipation – Sleeping problems – Feeling swollen in by body – Acne and skin problems – Need for eating candy, etc. – Does not think about or feel for having sex I get my menstruation around the 10th next month. I get "sort of" normal a few days in between but that’s all… My spouse is thinking that my PMS problems are affecting our relationship and that I really ought to do something – maybe I am to messed up in all my symptoms and not noticing what it does to our relation? I am not aware of any problems that this may cause for my relationship with my boyfriend. My partner, on the other hand, experiences the following problems because of my PMS problems: – My lack of sexual interest makes him frustrated. – He says that he is irritated because I am complaining all the time about practical things like if he is spilling out coffee etc. – My need for having everything tidy in our house and not wanting or being intereted in sex is not what he wants. Even when he tells me this I don’t agree with him, becuase I think he is not tidy and he is clumsy etc. We are both living at a high social standard and financiall well off. We live in a big house with pool etc. He is a corpoaret executive and I am a teacher. My spouse does not understand me. Every time I start to cry about somehing he starts to speak about sex and that he does not get enough sex. He always think that it’s something to do with him when I start to cry. So. if I am sad about something else, he always start an argument about sex. About that we never have sex and so on. Alhough we have sex a least once or sometimes twice a week. I am satisfied with our sexlife but in between he talks to much about sex. I don’t get sexually excited when he speaks about it and always want sex. He wants more sex. My boydfriend told me that I have to do something about my PMS problems. I don’t know when my PMS problems got worse. Now I have 6 weeks of vacation and don’t want to listen to by boyfriend complaing all that time. I have myself done the following to try to cure my PMS problems: – I have tried different pills (mini pill, 3 stage pill, and ordinary pills). I tried this during different periods. – I have also tried the "spiral". I have tried a copper spiral. Now I am trying a hormone spiral, which I think makes my PMS problems worse but I am using it anyway because it was the last alternative my doctor told me. Apart from that I haven’t done anything to cure my PMS problems. PLEASE HELP !!! Elisabeth.

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Hello, I’m seeking a decisive source on the safety in the usage of essential oils. I’ve many resources on essential oils, but with such disparity re. HOW much of an essential oil is too much during pregnancy, epilepsy, etc. (whether contraindicated or not). One source indicates that one would have to ingest an inordinate amount of the contraindicated, undiluted  essential oil to cause grave harm – and even then, this is dubious.  Another source emphatically forbids the use of any EO contraindicated for a particular situation.  Is this practical?  If only .4% of a dilution is lavender, for instance, during the first trimester of a pregnancy – could this really cause an emmenagogic reaction? Could someone help me with this?  Thanks! Hello, I’m seeking a decisive source on the safety in the usage of essential oils. I’ve many resources on essential oils, but with such disparity re. HOW much of an essential oil is too much during pregnancy, epilepsy, etc. (whether contraindicated or not). One source indicates that one would have to ingest an inordinate amount of the contraindicated, undiluted  essential oil to cause grave harm – and even then, this is dubious.  Another source emphatically forbids the use of any EO contraindicated for a particular situation.  Is this practical?  If only .4% of a dilution is lavender, for instance, during the first trimester of a pregnancy – could this really cause an emmenagogic reaction? Could someone help me with this?  Thanks!

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> Hello, > I’m seeking a decisive source on the safety in the usage of essential oils. > I’ve many resources on essential oils, but with such disparity re. HOW much > of an essential oil is too much during pregnancy, epilepsy, etc. (whether > contraindicated or not). One source indicates that one would have to ingest > an inordinate amount of the contraindicated, undiluted  essential oil to > cause grave harm – and even then, this is dubious.  Another source > emphatically forbids the use of any EO contraindicated for a particular > situation.  Is this practical?  If only .4% of a dilution is lavender, for > instance, during the first trimester of a pregnancy – could this really cause > an emmenagogic reaction? > Could someone help me with this?  Thanks!

Hi. I’m a massage therapist and I’ve studied aromatherapy.  I wouldn’t worry too much about lavender.  Orange, lavender and rose are all acceptable during pregnancy. Usually in a 10% or less dilution. Lavender is so mild it is often used neat on the skin. Rose essential oil is usually a dilution when you buy it ’cause it’s really expensive. Check out "The Complete Book of Essential Oils & Aromatherapy" by Valerie Ann Worwood. Also "Aromatherapy An A-Z" by Patricia Davis These books will give you more info and applications ie (proper dilutions and uses). JackieB    Time is an illusion – lunchtime doubly so.  -F.Prefect

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> Hello, > I’m seeking a decisive source on the safety in the usage of essential oils. > I’ve many resources on essential oils, but with such disparity re. HOW much > of an essential oil is too much during pregnancy, epilepsy, etc. (whether > contraindicated or not). One source indicates that one would have to ingest > an inordinate amount of the contraindicated, undiluted  essential oil to > cause grave harm – and even then, this is dubious.  Another source > emphatically forbids the use of any EO contraindicated for a particular > situation.  Is this practical?  If only .4% of a dilution is lavender, for > instance, during the first trimester of a pregnancy – could this really cause > an emmenagogic reaction? > Could someone help me with this?  Thanks!

Hi. I’m a massage therapist and I’ve studied Aromatherapy.  I wouldn’t worry too much about lavender.  Orange, lavender and rose are all acceptable during pregnancy. Usually in a 10% or less dilution. Lavender is so mild it is often used neat on the skin. Rose essential oil is usually a dilution when you buy it ’cause it’s really expensive. Check out "The Complete Book of Essential Oils & Aromatherapy" by Valerie Ann Worwood. Also "Aromatherapy An A-Z" by Patricia Davis These books will give you more info and applications ie (proper dilutions and uses). JackieB    Time is an illusion – lunchtime doubly so.  -F.Prefect

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Hello, I’m seeking a decisive source on the safety in the usage of essential oils. I’ve many resources on essential oils, but with such disparity re. HOW much of an essential oil is too much during pregnancy, epilepsy, etc. (whether contraindicated or not). One source indicates that one would have to ingest an inordinate amount of the contraindicated, undiluted  essential oil to cause grave harm – and even then, this is dubious.  Another source emphatically forbids the use of any EO contraindicated for a particular situation.  Is this practical?  If only .4% of a dilution is lavender, for instance, during the first trimester of a pregnancy – could this really cause an emmenagogic reaction? Could someone help me with this?  Thanks!

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There is a book called Essential Oil Safety by Tony Balacs and Robert Tisserand. It is around $50.00 but is very good for researching the oils. — JoAnne Bassett                          Therapeutic grade essential oils, Certified Aromatherapist       >><<     blends, diffusers, floral waters, http://www.eskimo.com/~joanne  >><<     blending oils, books, etc.

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Hello, Regarding the post suggesting 40-50 drops of essential oil.  That is way too much.  10 to 15 drops in a full bath tub is the maximum amount to use.  Also you need to swirl the water to disperse the oil.  You can also add whole milk or almond oil etc to the essential oils to dilute them.  If you were to put more than 3 drops of Peppermint in the tub and sit down lyou would get a skin burn.  You should soak for 10 minutes. I suggest reading a book on Aromatherrapy before jumping in! There are toxic oils and oils that shouldn’t be used for people ith high blood pressure, pregnancy etc.  I think everyone should read the safety data or cautions before using essential oils. Aromatherapy is a powerful tool that can do some good if used properly. Oils like lavender are baby safe but some oils can be skin irritants. Enjoy! JoAnne Bassett Tony

: > : >I would like to know what essencial oils would be best to help with : >anxiety, stress and panic attacks… thanks : > : Essential Oils that can possibly help are many; here are a few – : sandalwood, peppermint, jasmine, lavander. : In the bath you might start with 40-50 drops – soak for as long as you can. : You can add the essential oil to a carrier oil such as almond and massage : your entire body and keep it on for at least 30 min.  Mix 30-40 : drops to 4 oz of carrier oil. Best method is to receive a massage : and take along or request or request a calming mix.  A favorite of mine : is peppermint in sesame oil.  It can really relieve a funky feeling. : I have clients that really like it also.  **Always do a test on your body : to see how it will agree with you.  Rosemary or basil can be good to sniff. : In fact any fragrance that is pleasing and calming to you should be : sampled.  Chocolate, hay, a love ones perfume/aftershave etc. : You might want to check the library or a bookstore and research it more : to you needs.  Feel free to e-mail me if I you have any questions. : **Synthetic oils should be avoided, especially for skin contact. : Peace, Tony   — JoAnne Bassett                          Aromatherapy grade essential oils, Certified Aromatherapist       >><<     blends, diffusers, floral waters, http://www.eskimo.com/~joanne  >><<     blending oils, books, etc.

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I would like to know what essencial oils would be best to help with anxiety, stress and panic attacks… thanks

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>I would like to know what essencial oils would be best to help with >anxiety, stress and panic attacks… thanks

Essential Oils that can possibly help are many; here are a few – sandalwood, peppermint, jasmine, lavander. In the bath you might start with 40-50 drops – soak for as long as you can. You can add the essential oil to a carrier oil such as almond and massage your entire body and keep it on for at least 30 min.  Mix 30-40 drops to 4 oz of carrier oil. Best method is to receive a massage and take along or request or request a calming mix.  A favorite of mine is peppermint in sesame oil.  It can really relieve a funky feeling. I have clients that really like it also.  **Always do a test on your body to see how it will agree with you.  Rosemary or basil can be good to sniff. In fact any fragrance that is pleasing and calming to you should be sampled.  Chocolate, hay, a love ones perfume/aftershave etc. You might want to check the library or a bookstore and research it more to you needs.  Feel free to e-mail me if I you have any questions. **Synthetic oils should be avoided, especially for skin contact. Peace, Tony  

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